Ceiling fan wiring help please

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Ceiling fan wiring help please

We bought a new ceiling fan and connected it how it said. Black & blue from fan to black from box.
White and white
And ground
Everything works but only from pulling the strings, we want to control the light from our light switch. No matter which combination we've tried it will only work from pulling the strings.
Our ceiling has black, red, white & ground
Same with light switch.
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Is the switch controlling the black wire or red wire, in the box? Why do I see a green ground wire connected to 2 white wires?
 
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I see a black wire pushed into the back of the switch.
I see a red wire on the screw next to the push in.
I see a white wire looped around the other screw on the switch.

Is this correct ?

In this application.... white should not be attached to the switch.
 
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Pulpo.... those are bare grounds sprayed white.
 
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They are copper wires which I am assuming is the ground but have been painted white when the roof was painted.
 
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Yes that's how they are at the moment we've tried every which way on the switch thinking something gotta work. So take the whites off altogether? How should I do the red and black?
 
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Ok.... we need to know exactly what you have there.

It looks like a two wire cable and a three wire cable at the switch. Is that correct ?
Is there just the one three wire cable at the fan location ?

In looking at the location where you are installing the fan..... is that a fan rated junction box ?
It must use 10-24 mounting screws for the fan itself.

It looks like that box is plastic..... it isn't..... is it ?
 
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The wall light switch box has 3 black wires 2 of which are capped off and we never changed that. One red wire and 2 white wires.

It is fan rated and it's a metal one, maybe plastic coated?
3 black wired, 2 white and 1 red in ceiling
 
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It would appear that your wiring was not setup for a fan. It looks like you have one switched wire to the fan. On that switch should be black and red only. The black should be always hot and the red is the switched line to the ceiling.

At the ceiling..... connect the fans black wire to the black splice in the ceiling.
Connect the fans blue wire to the switched red wire.
Connect the fans white wire to the white splice in the ceiling.

The switch will control the light. The pullchain will control the fan.
 
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And how should the light switch be wired?
Or are you saying a fan won't work at all?
 
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On that switch should be black and red only.
On one screw terminal should be the red wire and the black should be on the other terminal.

It should be wired back the way you found it when you opened it.
 
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Does it matter where they go? It works when I do black and red but the switch doesn't turn the light off and on
 
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Determine which wire is the hot lead that is supplying the switch. Have the switch in the off position when you do that. Then determine if any of the wires are hot, in the ceiling. Test all of them when the switch is off. If nothing is hot, turn the switch on & test it again. Let us know the results of those tests.
 
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We found one it's the black one.
When I put black and red together the light works but switch doesn't
When I put them separate the light doesn't work at all.
 
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Determine which wire is the hot lead that is supplying the switch.
We found one it's the black one.
When I put black and red together the light works but switch doesn't
When I put them separate the light doesn't work at all.
Try this: Connect the red wire in your wall box to one of the two brass terminals on your switch. Cut a pigtail (a 6" to 8" piece of wire) from black wire that's the same size as the wire you're working with in the wall. Splice (twist) the two black wires in the switch box and the pigtail together and put a wire nut on that splice. Connect the other end of the pigtail to the other brass terminal on the switch.

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At the ceiling..... connect the fans black wire to the black splice in the ceiling.
Connect the fans blue wire to the switched red wire.
Connect the fans white wire to the white splice in the ceiling.

The switch will control the light. The pullchain will control the fan.
 
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oldfield, you didn't tell me what was hot on top when the switch was on & when it was off. If the black is the supply line in the switch box & the red controls the hot lead in the ceiling, wire the switch with those two wires & connect the hot wire in the ceiling to the black & blue wire on the fan. That should do it.
 
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Does it matter where they go?
Yes.
It works when I do black and red but the switch doesn't turn the light off and on
Then you must be connecting those two wires to the same terminal. The red wire to the ceiling goes on one of the two brass terminals on your switch. The black wire from the panel goes on the other brass terminal.

If you have more than one black wire in your wall box, splice all of those black wires together and add a pigtail to connect to the switch.

No conductor (wire) should be pushed into a back-stab hole in your switch.
 
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