At wits end, requesting help with ceiling fan box

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Old 09-12-15, 08:52 PM
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At wits end, requesting help with ceiling fan box

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I have been working to try and install a ceiling fan in my apartment as management has told me they wont pay for or install anything for me even though I just have a hole in the ceiling with a junction box with no mounting screws for fixtures.

I guess the first question I have is the box suitable for a ceiling fan installation?
If it is I have no idea what screws are supposed to go in the box I tried 10-24 screws that are 1 inch long and they just went through the mounting ears without needing to be screwed in they weren't quite long enough to reach the holes at the top fully. I'm not sure if I used the right thread or if there is something wrong with box.

Edit: Forgot to mention that the box is directly mounted onto a wooden joist. Since there are holes in the box where a screw could penetrate into the wooden joist, is that how the mounting is expected to be done? If so what size wood screw would I use?

Thank you for your help.

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Old 09-12-15, 09:54 PM
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We always advise because of liability do not do electrical work if you don't own it. If there should be a fire even if not related to your work if the insurance company found you had done work they might try to blame you... and you probably can't afford to hire lawyers as good as theirs. And lets not forget local civil codes you may be violating. Sorry but if you want it done hire an electrician or offer to reimburse the owner for the cost of having it done.
 
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Old 09-12-15, 09:55 PM
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Welcome to the forums.

It looks like a fan box but I have a few concerns.

It looks like the box is held to the bottom of a piece of wood with nails. You may not be using the proper screws. You might possibly have the Raco fan box in the middle picture.

All three in the picture below will work. My preference is the one on the left for a more solid place to screw in to. In any event..... the nails in the bottom of that box need to be replace with screws. Since you are in a renting situation.... the hiring of an electrician is recommended.

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Thank you for your response, where you say there are nails that is actually a problem with the image quality there is actually nothing in those areas just where I can see the wood. There appears to possibly be two lag bolts right next to the holes though. Image below.

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Old 09-12-15, 10:19 PM
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Now that you pointed out the lags.... I see them.

Then that is a Raco fan rated box, properly mounted, and all you'll need to get are the right fan attachment screws. I don't know if they're sold separately.
 
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Thank you for the advice ray2047, I may do this and get a contractor. AZ law has a provision where the landlord or in this case rental company fails to do the repair which they have and since it is exposed electrical wiring it would be considered a hazard to safety under AZ law, I can deduct it from the rent if I give them notice that I'm going to self-repair through a contractor.
 
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Thank you for your help. PJmax and ray2047
 
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Old 09-12-15, 10:29 PM
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Probably would need to be a written request for service and possibly sent registered mail or mail requiring an adult signature. Something to leave you with a received receipt.

You're welcome.
 
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Probably would need to be a written request for service and possibly sent registered mail or mail requiring an adult signature. Something to leave you with a received receipt.
I have 3 written requests prior, I have records for two so i'm set there

Would just need to do the certified letter of my intent to self repair through contractor under A.R.S. 33-1363 if the rental company doesn't resolve within 10 days

I guess my original thinking was, darn it I will just do it myself and be done with it
 
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