Finding Recessed LED inserts to fit in Lightolier Fixture

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Old 09-18-15, 12:08 PM
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Finding Recessed LED inserts to fit in Lightolier Fixture

My house was built in the late 80's and it has a bunch of recessed lights which I am trying to swap out for LED inserts.

The recessed lights are Lightolier nail in units that have a conical can which has nothing to grab onto for the LED insert. See picture of the can - once the can is removed their is nothing else on the nail in unit to grab onto and they look sloppy as in the picture.

Does Lightolier and anyone make an insert that works in this situation? It is basically a rough opening with a nailed in Lightolier unit. Name:  IMG_1655.jpg
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Old 09-18-15, 07:48 PM
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Give us a well lit picture of the inside of the can.
 
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Can you also tell us the size of the fixtures ?
 
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Here are more detailed pictures

they are 6" lights

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Assuming they are a standard medium base I would recommend just installing a replacement LED lamp rather then a retrofit kit with lamp/trim combo unit. LED PAR30 lamps are fairly easy to find and many cases cost less then trim/lamp combo unit. Replacement trims are fairly easy to find online if you do not like the black.

Your other option would be to use the old trim as the can and remove the black baffle part. IDK if the new LED trim will fit in that either.
 
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I am trying to replace the fixture for cosmetic reasons. The old until looks dated and want a clean looking new LED fixture
 
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Old 09-20-15, 02:23 PM
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Then I would recommend going to the Lightolier web site and finding trims that will get you the look you want. Otherwise you are likely going to have to replace the cans with a remodel can that will work with the trims you want.
 
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Check this link out for replacement cans.......
lightolier.com/MKABrochures/Comprehensive/files/assets/downloads/page0321.pdf

And this link for more choices....
NEW LIGHTOLIER 1105 MATTE BLACK 6 3 4 APERTURE STEP BAFFLE REFLECTOR TRIM

You can google..... Lightolier 1076/1176 ....for more info.
 
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What is the part number for that ring?I believe those small clips that are bent up should hold the trim in place, at any rate the best bet would be to contact Ligtholier customer service and see what they have to offer.
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Old 09-22-15, 06:35 AM
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I believe the problem is that Lightolier recessed lighting of that vintage didn't have a can, but just a frame.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ligh...BYvaqG8O55M%3A

The LED retrofit trims that claim to fit any recessed can may work on a typical recessed can, but Lightolier doesn't have a typical can. The conical shape portion of the Lightolier recessed light is part of the trim.

The others are right, the OP needs to look at LED trims from Lightolier that will fit the frames.

I remember back in the '70s when Lightolier came out with what they called their 7-11 system. They had 7 different economically priced trims to fit the 1100 series frames. They sold literally millions of them.
 
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