Cylinder lights keep burning out

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Old 10-05-15, 04:58 PM
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Cylinder lights keep burning out

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we have two outdoor cylinder lights that seem to keep burning out after about a month o maybe sooner.

I believe these are the cylinders that we have.

Progress Lighting 2-Light Black Wall Lantern-P5713-31 - The Home Depot

I have tried different outdoor flood bulbs but nothing seems to help. I purchased the glass tops to the cylinders because i thought moisture was getting in but that didn't seem to help. i hasn't rained a lot this month in chicago but i think it rained a bit yesterday or the day before and now one of the lights is out. the lights for the most part are off during the day because they are sensor controlled.

does anyone have any idea if I just have to deal with this or if maybe its a water issue or something else?

thanks, sl
 
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Old 10-05-15, 06:05 PM
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Did you try 130 volt incandescent bulbs? Have you considered using CFL or LED? Are these next to a door that may occasionally be closed hard?
 
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The lights are not by a door. Thanks for the suggestion about he CFL and led. I never thought of that. I'll take a look at Home Depot. Are there any outdoor CFL or led lights or just get whatever they have?
 
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There are specific bulbs rated for outdoor duty and the depot does carry them.
 
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thanks everyone. I will try and get some of these soon. I think we are currently using a philips outdoor incandescent flood. I can take a picture of the box when i get home. anyhow, I have just a couple of quick questions.

1. whats the significance of the 130 volt incandescent light? i have heard of bulbs like 60 watt etc, but nothing relating to the voltage.

2. whats the thought behind trying a CFL or LED? are they just more durable?

thanks, sl
 
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The 130 volt bulbs have a different filament and are designed to last longer.
 
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Thanks pcboss. I will get all these to try.
 
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The last set of lights were were using are the:

Sylvania 14502 50 Watt PAR20 Narrow Flood Light Bulb / 30 Degree Beam Spread / 120 Volt / 50PAR20

Sylvania 14502 50 Watt PAR20 Narrow Flood Light Bulb / 30 Degree Beam Spread / 120 Volt / 50PAR20 - Halogen Bulbs - Amazon.com

They look really heavy duty with thick glass. I am thinking about trying these LEDs instead. They are a little expensive and I would rather not blow through them.Any thoughts? thanks!


Philips 100W Equivalent Daylight (5000K) PAR38 Wet-Rated Outdoor and Security LED Flood Light Bulb (4-Pack)-435016 - The Home Depot
 
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Do NOT use compact fluorescents with motion detectors.

A fluoirescent lamp is good for about 6500 starts. The time they are left on does not shorten their lives - starting them wears them out.

I tried CFLs in motion detector lights, and was changing them every 3 months. I am now using LEDs.

Question: Is water getting into the lamp sockets? That can damage the lamps.
 
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I supposed water could be getting in their. The builder did not install the top covers. That much I figured out and got taken care of. We were either going to get CFL with sensors or LEDs. I am not sure if the CFLs will ever turn off because they will be in a dark cylinder. The LEDS we are looking at are $75 for 4. I guess if these burn out then we can assume its water?
 
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You are correct.... bulbs with sensors wouldn't work in there. They would either never turn off or keep turning on and off seeing the reflection off the cylinder.

Those LED bulbs should be a good choice. A little bit of silicone grease or vaseline on the threads and button will help reduce corrosion and keep the bulb from becoming corroded to the socket.
 
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Great. Thanks of the ideas everyone.
 
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Old 10-13-15, 04:51 PM
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Just as an additional thought. Those bulbs are color temperature 5000K which is very bright white light. The chart below shows where the color falls in the spectrum. The lower the temperature..... the warmer the color.

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You may want to consider these instead...
Philips 90W Equivalent Bright White (3000K) PAR38 Wet-Rated Outdoor and Security LED Flood Light Bulb (4-Pack)-435008 - The Home Depot
 
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thanks for taking the time to help me.
 
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You're welcome. Knowing ahead will save an additional trip.
 
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