Does this light box support a ceiling fan?


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Old 12-29-15, 05:10 AM
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Does this light box support a ceiling fan?

I've converted a formal dining room into an office and one of the things I'm wanting to do is replace the chandelier with a ceiling fan. I can't tell if the existing light box can properly support one, and would have removed it, but I can't seem to pry it out from below, and was hoping to avoid accessing it from the attic.

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Old 12-29-15, 05:23 AM
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Pro's will be in soon but from what I can see No,
 
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Old 12-29-15, 05:54 AM
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That is not a fan rated box,looks like a trip to the attic to see how that box is attached,it probably has a J bracket nailed on the side of the ceiling joist.
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Old 12-29-15, 06:19 AM
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Any tips on a way to remove it without going into the attic? I tried pushing up with the handle of a hammer, and pulling down on it with pliers, but I didn't have any luck getting, what I assume to be the nails, to pull out of the joist.
 
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Old 12-29-15, 06:33 AM
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Try sliding a keyhole saw blade along side the box to determine where the joist is,do you have a sawzall ? If so cut the nails off with it,just make sure you know where the cables are, also you are lucky as that box has only 1 cable,can you see any rivets inside the box that are attached to the bracket? You maybe able to drill those out,worst case just cut the box up with a sharp keyhole saw.
 
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Old 12-30-15, 06:29 PM
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So I finally managed to find the box from the attic. It does just nail into the side of a joist. The problem being is with the angle I can't get the claw of a hammer under either nail, and anything else I use to try and pry them out they don't move.Name:  20151230_205057.jpg
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Old 12-30-15, 06:32 PM
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Go downstairs..... take a large screwdriver and hammer and HIT it hard. The box will crack.

I usually take the handle of the hammer.... set it in the box and push until the box gives way.
It's hard to pry it away from the joist because the box is stuck in the sheetrock.
 
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I tried that previously but the box is metal so I haven't had any luck getting it to crack.
 
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Old 12-30-15, 07:50 PM
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Insert the screwdriver between the bracket and the framing and pry outward. It may take several pries to remove the box.
 
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I tried that from below, I might need to from above. I also tried with a crowbar. If it wasn't for the shaking, due to only being connected from one side, I'd have complete faith in this holding a ceiling fan without falling.
 
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Old 12-30-15, 08:00 PM
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Are you sure that's a metal box. It's unlike any metal box I've seen before.
It's got two large holes in the back.

Maybe diecast.... like the metal a weatherproof box is made from ?
 
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Old 12-30-15, 08:12 PM
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It feels metal but I just checked and it's not magnetic so I'm likely mistaken.
 
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Old 12-31-15, 03:30 AM
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Once you get it out, you will need to install a fan rated box. Here are some samples and you will note the differences in the attachment screw sizes and their locations, as well as the "through" bolting.

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Old 12-31-15, 12:31 PM
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Try taking a screw driver or an old chisel to the attic,and where the nail goes through the bracket hit it a good crack there and that plastic should fracture,this really isn't rocket science.
 
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Old 12-31-15, 03:37 PM
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A hacksaw blade without a handle will cut the nails. Just watch around the cable so it does not get cut.
 
 

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