Hi, cutting a long story short, none of my juno recessed lighting baffles were ever installed correctly, and after having a look myself, i can understand why. They're supposed to clip in at the top at the socket, which would pull them up snug, and along with the springs on the sides, hold things nice and tight to the ceiling.

HOWEVER, the original installer, never managed to figure out a way to get the top clamps into the housing/baffle and nor can I. I see there's a way to slide down the actual socket within the enclosure, but it doesn't allow it to slide down enough for you to access the top clamps and you cant even get your hands in there to pinch the clamps shut. I have a plethora of pliers, long needle nose ones and what not, and after a couple of hrs of trying, i just gave up.. and tried the cheat way of using some glue.. Also tried some super strong double sided tape (which is meant for holding down wood flooring, again which didn't hold Plus making matters worse, the clamp that holds the pinch spring thats in the actual housing, snapped off.

So anyway, YouTube doesn't seem to be coming up with the correct technique thats needed, but i see what needs to be done, just not understanding how to do it given the very limited access and limited movement, once the ceiling is in place. This is a two story home so i do not have access from the attic.

Anyway any ideas appreciated. even if it involves spending a bit and replacing them entirely. The voids are doing my head in, and i'm also loosing AC as they're far from being air-tight.

Here's a pic to show you what i mean.



Here's a video from someone on YT, which has the same housing as what i have, but unfortunately he doesn't really explain anything other than show me what i already know.

There's wingnuts to lower the socket, but how would you get your hand in there to tighten them back up anyway? But at least it shows the same light i have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2njyAaqpZ_4

 

You should use a baffle trim like this link:
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If you're already using this type, there is a problem because they should clamp pretty tight to the ceiling.

To install, you loosen the wing nut. The plate will slide down or up, allowing you to remove the socket, discard the upper plate.

I think the video you linked to is confusing because they are telling you how to save the plate, which isn't necessary.

Here's a video direct from Juno. Skip to 3:10 and it shows how to adjust the mounting clamps for remodel type and adjust the socket.
Make sure you insert the smaller slot first when attaching the socket to the new trim.

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Great thanks for all those. Unfortunately i've lost one of the c-clamps aka bullhorns.. The metal was soft and it literally just came away from the can. Do i have any other options other than replacing the entire unit ? if so, what product should i be looking for, given its recessed into a ceiling, inbetween two floors, meaning that i cannot access from above as i would be able to do so if there was an attic to access from.

I have 12 in total... So i should be able to fix the other 11 by following the recommendation of losing the plate. But i've not got that one missing the clamp

I think i know why they're not flush, because the top clasps are not in and therefore pushing it away from the ceiling, rather than clamping and allowing the torsion springs to do their job properly.

 

Just want to say thanks, after removing the plates, and using the socket clasps, i managed to get 10 of them flush and snug to the ceiling. Unfortunately an additional c-clamp (bullhorn) broke off one other can, so now i have two broken. Not quite sure what the best fix is yet and if anyone has any ideas, throw em my way.. I was thinking about perhaps either drilling a couple of screws in place of the bullhorns and see if that is able to succesfully replace the bullhorn.. Failing that, i could just try some construction adhesive, and see if that works now that there's no sprung force pushing the baffles down, as what was happening with the original installation.

But for now at least i've learnt the system, which i'm happy about and it amazes me, that the original builder's electrical company didn't install these properly. I should of complained at the time i bought the place, except i thought it would be an easy fix and just took my time getting around to trying fix it myself.

**edit** ALL SET !!! After a little googling, i found these online

So with that in mind, i just took the broken ones, drilled a hole in the can and in the broken c-clamp, attached it back to the clamp, bent out the c bits and it worked !!! So I'm all set. Right i'm off to have a beer HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL !!!

 

These lights aren't the easiest to install, but they are nice. The most important thing to me is the can itself doesn't sag.

Your idea of drilling two screws into the side of the can is a good one.
You can space the screws the same distance as the original ears or a little closer.
If the trim sags just a little after that, I would hot-melt glue it with several dabs or use mirror adhesive and tape it in place until dry.
The trim really shouldn't be glued but it will come off easily if ever needed.

 

Do you know the model numbers of the can and trim? I use Juno every day.