Touch Plate problems, no lights will turn on/off, out of ideas..
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Touch Plate problems, no lights will turn on/off, out of ideas..
I'm out of solutions looking for help.
I have an old low voltage lighting system. The lights that are on wont turn off and vice-versa.
Removed the plates on the lights that are on to make sure none are sticking.
Metered the transverter and read 29VDC. Had someone push a switch and it drop to around 3-4VDC. From what I read this is normal and shows that no switch is stuck.
I also disconnected the ground from each relay, one at a time, but did not resolve issue.
Could all the relays have gone bad at the same time? Also this has pilots lights, can that cause the system to stop?
I have an old low voltage lighting system. The lights that are on wont turn off and vice-versa.
Removed the plates on the lights that are on to make sure none are sticking.
Metered the transverter and read 29VDC. Had someone push a switch and it drop to around 3-4VDC. From what I read this is normal and shows that no switch is stuck.
I also disconnected the ground from each relay, one at a time, but did not resolve issue.
Could all the relays have gone bad at the same time? Also this has pilots lights, can that cause the system to stop?
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Metered the transverter and read 29VDC. Had someone push a switch and it drop to around 3-4VDC. From what I read this is normal
From what I read this is norma
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It's definitely called a transverter, tried looking a transformer but unable to find any. Checked around all the panels, attic and garage.
Link below is a troubleshooting guide where I read the voltage dropping was normal. It is #5
http://touchplate.com/wp-content/upl...uck-Switch.pdf
Link below is a troubleshooting guide where I read the voltage dropping was normal. It is #5
http://touchplate.com/wp-content/upl...uck-Switch.pdf
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Their calling it that in your link but I'm puzzled. Here is a Wikipedia definition:
Continued at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transverter I can't figure out what that would have to do with a wired LV switching system. Is it wireless?
A transverter is a radio frequency device that consists of an upconverter and a downconverter in one unit. Transverters are used in conjunction with transceivers to change the range of frequencies over which the transceiver can communicate. A transverter is a universal electrical power converter that can combine, convert, analyze and control any combinations of DC or AC power.
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No, it's not wireless
Video from youtube. The unit being retrofitted is exactly like mine except alot more wires.
The guy calls it a transverter also. It is the grey box right under the panel.
https://youtu.be/_RVyNMESxB4
Only difference in the video is that when I press the switches I hear a buzz instead of a click. This happens with all the switches. From what I remember, when it was functioning properly, I hear it buzz instead of click.
This is the suggested relay replacement 2-Wire Relay - Replacement Parts - Touch-Plate Lighting Controls Touch-Plate Lighting Controls
I'm pretty sure that it's a transformer and they just wanted to call it transverter to distinguish themselves.
Video from youtube. The unit being retrofitted is exactly like mine except alot more wires.
The guy calls it a transverter also. It is the grey box right under the panel.
https://youtu.be/_RVyNMESxB4
Only difference in the video is that when I press the switches I hear a buzz instead of a click. This happens with all the switches. From what I remember, when it was functioning properly, I hear it buzz instead of click.
This is the suggested relay replacement 2-Wire Relay - Replacement Parts - Touch-Plate Lighting Controls Touch-Plate Lighting Controls
I'm pretty sure that it's a transformer and they just wanted to call it transverter to distinguish themselves.
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Thanks for the replies, gonna get a relay and wire that one up with a different power source.
Hope to get some switches functioning while trying to figure out the cause of this.
Hope to get some switches functioning while trying to figure out the cause of this.
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A transformer would just put out AC voltage. That puts out a DC voltage.
So it's not a transformer..... it's a power supply. BUT they've gone one step further and added a protection system to it so a dead short doesn't blow it out. Hence the name.
In your case.... it appears the "transverter" is bad.... or at least it's internal protection circuit is.
So it's not a transformer..... it's a power supply. BUT they've gone one step further and added a protection system to it so a dead short doesn't blow it out. Hence the name.
In your case.... it appears the "transverter" is bad.... or at least it's internal protection circuit is.
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I'll order a transverter also and see how it turns out.
Curious though, if the internal protection circuit is bad/damage would that still allow it to output 28V?
Interested on how it works.
Curious though, if the internal protection circuit is bad/damage would that still allow it to output 28V?
Interested on how it works.
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It has the ability to shed load. Could be a varistor, resistor or some other type of current limiter. It would appear that the load of the relay is too much for it.
You could probably use any 28vdc supply but if the switch got stuck or a wire shorted.... it would fail.
You could probably use any 28vdc supply but if the switch got stuck or a wire shorted.... it would fail.
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If you're looking for a transverter...
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