Need help repairing and replacing a broken screw shell on a lamp socket

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Old 01-29-19, 02:49 PM
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Need help repairing and replacing a broken screw shell on a lamp socket

I really need help to change the lamp socket and to mount the screw shell in the lamp socket on one of my two bedroom lights. I have been living of on single light in my bedroom for nearly two months and I have difficulties concentrating in working on my laptop sitting on my desk where the broken light is located ahead which my desk area is dark.

How this happened: As my bedroom has two lights when I only need them in night time and mind you nights are longer in winter. The light bulbs on two of the lamps fuses frequently and it might be due to problems with electrical connections, as the house is 14 years old. And I have a very hard time replacing the light bulb and it is very risky as I try to prevent from getting electrocuted.

Two months back when I was replacing the light bulb on the lamp at the desk area, I mounted the light bulb too tight and accidentally broke the screw shell. Reason for changing light bulb because the light bulb at the desk area was continuously fusing during that time.

The type of light bulb is used for this lamp is e17 light bulb and e17 light bulb requires different lamp socket and different screw shell. The lamp socket and screw shell for my lamp is a three pin type which is used and designed for particular lamp I believe.

I either need to have the exact three pin lamp socket or screw shell or I believe I would unable to fix the broken lamp. I had tried searching it online and its impossible to find the the exact type. If anyone believes I need to change the entire lamp or fix the electricity connections it would be too difficult work for me. I believe I need better light bulbs.

This is the type of lamp that hung on the ceiling roof and it is manufactured by Daiko. Anyone having knowledge about Daiko lamps would be really helpful. Especially if anyone knows where can I buy the lamp socket as a spare part of this model? online shops for Daiko lamps and light spare parts or buying the Daiko lamp itself on website that ships frequently?

Can anyone provide me a link that I could buy the exact type of three pin lamp socket and especially three pin screw shell on an online shop that actually functions and that actually ships the product internationally and frequently.

Is there any professional electrician in this forum to assist me in details on how to open, repair and replace the lamp socket and to mount the screw shell in the lamp socket with each steps and helping me to simply understand the process. Which tools should I use to detach the lamp socket and mount the screw shell in the lamp socket ?

Here is the detailed pictures above of how three pin screw shell and lamp socket looks like that I am looking for and how my lamp looks like as well. And the application of mounting the screw sell on the lamp socket. If anyone knows the specific model of the lamp and its spare parts.

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Small update: As I have searched a while ago the model number of the lamp socket is E17J. As I have mentioned earlier I was unable to find that model. There is only one online shop that sells E17J lamp socket and that website don't even respond or barely ships its product. I am looking for a website/online shop that is popular with international shipping and does it effectively.

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Old 01-29-19, 03:58 PM
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Welcome to the forums from Japan.

The E17 (17mm) lamp is our old C9 Christmas lamp. I've never seen that used in ceiling lights here in the States. It wouldn't be that bright for a ceiling light. The only places I found it available were from some companies in China like Alibaba. That may be your only choice. You need the ceramic socket with one screw.

E17 ceramic socket
 
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Hello

For the past 2 to 3 months I have been contacting the supplier and emailing the seller on this very same website even before posting a forum here. And I knew this website as soon as I was looking for a screw shell or lamp socket. I tried contacting and emailing the supplier and they don't seem to respond at all. And I only need one lamp socket and it is telling me to buy 1000 pieces/USD 0.01. All I am asking for an alternative website that sells the exact same lamp socket or screw shell separately which would be better and a guidance to how to repair it.
 
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Why not just replace the whole light. Maybe with a brighter newer LED fixture?
 
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It will be really hard to find the whole light? Any ideas and sources where can I buy a whole light even slightly different model or similar model the one I have would be fine. It will be difficult work to replace the whole light so I would still recommend to know alternate website for lamp socket and screw shell. Especially if anyone knows where any kind of screw shells are sold which might also have the 3 pin version would only really help me a lot. And anyone can tell me any simple methods to open and replace the whole light especially which wires I should unplug and how will I unplug the wires and how would I plug in wires when installing new light and the tools should I use would also help me.
 
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Old 01-30-19, 08:02 AM
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I can't comment on Japan but in the U.S. light fixtures like that are just mounted to a junction box and have a couple of wires that fasten to wires in the junction box.
 
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Old 01-30-19, 09:06 AM
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I would think you have lighting stores there. Maybe some type of home goods or improvement store.
The two thumb screws on the top canopy get unscrewed to remove the light fixture.
 
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Nobody said your new light had to exactly match the old. Consider it an excuse to upgrade.
 
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ray2047: That might be the one, I think it doesn't matter about the US light systems or Japanese light systems, this application might be similar to one you have explained. I might have to open the light and see the application and see what can I do about it, how will I detach and fasten the wires. But will it be a simple task for me to replace the whole light since I am not an electrician or will it be a complicated process ?

 
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PJmax: I opened that golden porcelain before and have seen the application. There are variety of not only home goods and improvement store but there are stores that are specially to light fixtures and manufacturer websites that sells light fixture as well. The thing is that It will hard to find the exact lamp socket, screw shell or the light fixture. I never unplugged the wires by myself before rather then opening the gold porcelain and I have no idea how hard will it be to manage and unplug the wires and how risky will it be, risk of being electrocuted. But I will try going to hardware stores and find it.
 
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In the U. S. simple but I just can't guess what you have.
 
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First, put a bulb in the fixture and turn it on. Now go to your circuit breaker panel and turn off each one until you find the one that turns off the light. Now with that circuit breaker off you can not get electrocuted.

Next, remove the screws holding the fixture to the ceiling. When looking at the head of the screw turn it counter/anti clockwise (lefty loosey) to remove it. Once you have all the screws out the fixture should come down. If it doesn't give it a moderate tap as sometimes the ceiling paint can stick it in place. The fixture will then come down and you will be able to see how the wires are attached. Take some pictures of the wiring with you phone so you can see how to hook up the wires from your new fixture.
 
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Pilot Dane: I think that's what I am gonna do if its the only option left. If you know any site that's specialized on lamp socket and or screw shell, ships internationally, let me know about. If you know any site that sells lamp socket components separately as well. Methods and steps to open the lamp socket and the tools I should use to open the lamp socket or mounting the screw shell.
 
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Pilot Dane: I think there is no point on putting a bulb on the fixture or lamp socket since the screw shell is broken and I might believe it will be risky to put a bulb which will make me to get electrocuted or it might catch fire or the bulb might fall down and broke and catch fire as well. however I will try that. Circuit breaker is connected to the entire home so my entire room will be without electricity. I have done this process before by removing the two thumb screws to opening the light fixtures of golden porcelain to see the application of wires attached. Have no problems with ceiling paint. Removing the two thumb screws is very difficult as well. Thank you for assisting me to the problem specially on opening the light fixture and that's what I am going to take a picture of wire attachment and post it here to look how its being diagnosed. In the meantime I might search for new light fixture or lamp socket.
 
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ray2047: I think its more simpler and safer as well. The thing is that I don't know how to handle it, not an electrician and never tried it before.
 
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I forgot your light only had one socket. Then, get a flashlight and turn off all the circuits in your house. It will be dark but at least you know you will not get shocked when taking down the light.
 
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Pilot Dane: I mean that I don't have a separated circuit breaker for my room. My house has only single circuit breaker that has switches to all rooms and it has switch to my room as well and it only needs to turn the switch off to my room and rest of the circuit breaker switches and rooms get untouched, just only my room, but my room will be dark - just saying, so might have to fix it during the daytime. If I insert a bulb on a broken lamp socket will it stand still or fall down because it won't be tight. Will there any risk to pour sprinkles of fire out from the lamp socket after I insert the bulb ?
 
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Due to your lack of basic knowledge strongly suggest you call an electrician.
 
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ray2047: The reason why I asked help by posting a forum here because in my current situation it is impossible to call an electrician due to a bit of private reasons and other factors. Its difficult to call and find a separate electrician and unless the number would be given to call on trouble shooting manual which didn't came with the lamp and it is not written on the lamp. But I can tell you that helpline or hotline written on Japanese electrical products is quite common to find. So in this situation I might have to fix the lamp by myself but all I am asking for to be learned some methods and steps that how to replace a lamp or light fixture (in case of getting a new light fixture) how to mount and detach lamp socket and screw (in case of getting a new lamp socket or screw shell) as a beginner, using simple methods that everyone can use and how to handle electrical components safely.
 
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