How to remove a gas pipe ceiling fixture.

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Old 11-17-19, 12:11 PM
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How to remove a gas pipe ceiling fixture.

I want to mount a modern lighting fixture or fan where a gaslight + knob and tube fixture was located. The gas and electrical are not active. A short section of pipe extends beyond the ceiling into the room. The pipe is up against a joist and I believe it is attached to the joist. I tried freeing it with a 12" pipe wrench.

What is the best way to remove it? Should I just use a longer wrench?

Do I need to remove it? Can I mount a fan box to the pipe?

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I would make the hole slightly larger and find the joist. They make boxes that fasten to the bottom of a joist or directly to the side. One of those may work there. The pipe may not be in the way. Some box choices below.

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It may not even be a gas pipe. It could be an old fixture mount.
 
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Old 11-17-19, 04:57 PM
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If it's in the way you can use a cut off saw and cut it off level with ceiling. If it's solid and does not move or vibrate you could as JOED suggested use it as a fixture mount.
 
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I'm not suggesting to USE it now. I am suggesting it may have been used in the past for the K&T fixture with no box. It could also be an actual old gas pipe.
 
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Hi, was there a black cast iron box there originally? Is it threaded, push a wire into and see if you can determine if there is an elbow a short way up , if so I might get a longer wrench. Your lucky, I have found them live with gas.
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Depending on the type of fan you are installing..... the gas pipe may be able to be left there.
Many ceiling hugger type fans have a 12"-16" canopy that can cover a large area.

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It hadn't been discussed...... do you have a way of getting a new cable there for power ?
 
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You need to be sure that the pipe is mounted securely enough to support the new fan before trying to use it as a support..
 
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No..... you would not use the pipe to hang a fan or light from.
 
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Thanks everyone for the replies. Am I allowed to extend the pipe through one of the knockouts in the pancake box? Any holes in the ceiling would be plastered, but the pipe would still extend through the plaster into the box?
 
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I don't see a problem allowing the pipe to enter the back of the box. That would mean you are surface mounting the pancake box. That sure doesn't leave much room for connections.
 
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Thanks for all the help. Using a pipe to extend my largest pipe wrench freed the pipe. It turns out doubling the length of the lever really does double the torque, and even made working from a ladder safer. Just make sure you're doing lefty loosey, not righty tighty.
 
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