Installation of dual switch/outlet in place of a light switch


  #1  
Old 01-03-20, 06:39 PM
J
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 4
Upvotes: 0
Received 0 Upvotes on 0 Posts
Installation of dual switch/outlet in place of a light switch

Hi, i want to replace a light switch with a dual switch/outlet (legrand 681 series seperate feed) in order to still control the light from the switch with an addition of independent outlet to give power to my phone charging station.
The confusion is how to wire the new switch and what wires to leave untouched. The wires in the box are 3 white together with a screw cap. Three black wire one with a small beige tape is hot and the rest two are feeds. The one on top of the beige taped wire was stuck together to the black wire on the top right hand side and attached to one of the screws on the light switch and the other black wire on the left side was alone attached to the other screw of the switch. Kindly help me how to wire these wires for the new switch to control the light only and have continuous supply for the outlet.

thank you in advance.
JF

Name:  ds1.JPG
Views: 286
Size:  61.6 KB

Name:  ds2.JPG
Views: 155
Size:  82.9 KB Name:  ds4.JPG
Views: 143
Size:  81.3 KB

Name:  ds3.JPG
Views: 129
Size:  36.5 KB
 

Last edited by PJmax; 01-03-20 at 09:09 PM. Reason: cropped/resized/labeled pictures
  #2  
Old 01-03-20, 09:05 PM
J
Member
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: welland ontario
Posts: 8,044
Received 517 Upvotes on 422 Posts
The one on top of the beige taped wire was stuck together to the black wire on the top right hand side and attached to one of the screws on the light switch
These two go on the switch hot and the receptacle hot. Doesn't matter which goes where it is a common point.

the other black wire on the left side was alone attached to the other screw of the switch.
This one goes to the switch out.

Take a short white wire and connect between the white bundle in the nut and the neutral (silver) screw.

On closer look I think you need a new device. Looks like someone cut the tab between the two hot screws.

There should be a tab joining the screws in the red circle.

Name:  Untitled.jpg
Views: 92
Size:  9.7 KB
 
  #3  
Old 01-03-20, 09:11 PM
PJmax's Avatar
Group Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Jersey
Posts: 65,121
Received 3,990 Upvotes on 3,581 Posts
Good catch on the hot clip. However, this receptacle comes that way. It's called a dual or split hot feed. The OP could really use the standard bridged hot for easier install.
 
  #4  
Old 01-04-20, 06:42 AM
J
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 4
Upvotes: 0
Received 0 Upvotes on 0 Posts
Pig tail

Thank you for your guidance. So if I am getting it right is to make a pigtail out of the neutral bunch? Also what to do with the three metal earthing wires, i forgot to mention about them in my original post. Also I was told to remove the tab if I want the switch and outlet to work independently. Please let me know.
thank you again
JF
 
  #5  
Old 01-04-20, 08:22 AM
J
Member
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: welland ontario
Posts: 8,044
Received 517 Upvotes on 422 Posts
You do not need remove the tab for independent operation.
To make the receptacle unswitched you connect the line to the two common terminals with the tab in place.
If you want the receptacle switched connect the line to the other side of the switch and then the common terminals will be switched.

The only time you would need the tab cut would be if the light and the receptacle were on two different breakers.
 
  #6  
Old 01-04-20, 09:08 AM
J
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 4
Upvotes: 0
Received 0 Upvotes on 0 Posts
Earthing

Thank you again for your prompt reply. I will get one device with the tab intact then. What to do about the three metal earth wires should I make a pigtail out of them as well and connect to the green screw? Kindly let me know.
 
  #7  
Old 01-04-20, 09:23 AM
PJmax's Avatar
Group Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Jersey
Posts: 65,121
Received 3,990 Upvotes on 3,581 Posts
Yes..... the three ground wires need to be connected. You could add a short tail to connect the device.
 
  #8  
Old 01-04-20, 10:33 AM
A
Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 4,533
Upvotes: 0
Received 279 Upvotes on 255 Posts
If the tab was broken, you can cut two pigtails to attach to the switch hot and receptacle hot terminals respectively. Wire nut the other ends to the hot feed in and hot feed out from the wall (4 wire ends together).
 
  #9  
Old 01-04-20, 10:43 AM
PJmax's Avatar
Group Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Jersey
Posts: 65,121
Received 3,990 Upvotes on 3,581 Posts
I would have recommended that but it looks like that box is already undersized.
 
  #10  
Old 01-04-20, 05:05 PM
J
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 4
Upvotes: 0
Received 0 Upvotes on 0 Posts
Its working..

Thank you everyone, specially to Joed for his detailed diagram and guidance. Its working perfect as I expected.
Thank you again.
JF
 
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
 
Ask a Question
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: