Chandelier hanging situation : extending chain and wiring while hanging


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Old 05-17-20, 08:26 PM
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Chandelier hanging situation : extending chain and wiring while hanging

Hello and thanks for your time,

The chandelier is now hung, wired and functional. It’s hanging on a two story ceiling in the foyer. Problem is it’s not hanging too low. About 5 ft in total. It was a 40in chain.

I can get more chain if I want and I still have some left over original wire.

My idea is it extend the chain and wire by about another two feet while it’s hanging. My question is, can I (or an electrician) splice the wire along the chain to add two feet of extra wire and reconnect? So that the chandelier hangs lower.

Im prepared to split, twist, soldering cover wiring and get it done. Extra chain can be added while the chandelier is hanging with relative ease but I’m concerned about the wiring.

Is it possible, and safe?
 
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Old 05-17-20, 09:48 PM
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By code are you allowed to extend or re-attach the wiring midspan...... no.
Have I done it.... yes.

I use good shrink tubing to make my splices better than the wires themselves.

One splice. Drop the canopy. Disconnect the wiring from the box. Attach the additional chain. Splice the wire. Reconnect it into the box. Put canopy back in place.
 
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Old 05-18-20, 05:58 AM
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Hi, I may consider using clear butt splices , stagger them a bit up the chain.
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Thanks pjmax.
I can’t get back up to the box without a scaffold or a proper ladder. I can access the mid chain from a mezzanine upstairs and do the operation on the mid chain. But it would be 4 splices in total. If I can find clear shrink tubing, then even better. What do you think?
 
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Old 05-18-20, 07:05 AM
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Hi, is possible for you to get the whole fixture onto the mezzanine? without seeing the fixture there maybe a canopy on top of the fixture where you could resplice the conductors, can you post a pick of the fixture, if you a planning on heat shrink, that would indicate that you are planning on solder connections , I would choose butt splices.
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Old 05-18-20, 11:13 AM
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Yes..... my connections were soldered and shrunk.

Two sets of splices is ok..... just hard to hide them as you need extra wire to make the splice and not much room to hide it when done.
 
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Old 05-18-20, 12:19 PM
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I need to see if I can access the chandelier fixture where the wiring is. It looks like its sealed tight. Not sure if I can open that up. Its a Shonbek- Swarski crystal chandelier - Vesca model with 9 lights - 33in wide.
Any idea on this?
 
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Old 05-18-20, 12:28 PM
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I grabbed a pic. Should be close to what you're working on.
Doubtful you could get that junction box opened easily.

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that's it. exactly right. If I could open it, I risk damage. So a 4 point splice is the most practical option.
 
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Old 05-18-20, 07:56 PM
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So a 4 point splice is the most practical option.
I would agree with that..............
 
 

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