Back with new challenge - Chandelier installation


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Old 09-19-20, 09:29 AM
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Back with new challenge - Chandelier installation

Hi all,
Hope you are all doing well.
With the help of Ray2047 and PJmax five years ago, I successfully installed my ceiling light as shown below.

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I decided to get an upgrade and purchased this light as shown below:
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This much bigger base is 18 Inch diameter and entire fixture weights about 20 pounds. Not sure how to go about this one, the instruction says 8 holes need to be drilled in the ceiling to install the base which I don't want to do. Can I use brackets to do this and what type would you recommend?

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The vendor only sent these screws as the hardware.
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Thanks in advance for any insights.

 

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Old 09-19-20, 09:42 AM
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I agree I would not want to use those as fasteners. First thing I would do is swap out the light fixture box for a fan rated one if it already rated as such. If it is fan rated then use the box and the mounting hardware as described. I would also use the plastic inserts are to give the light stability but not for strength to hold it up.
 
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Old 09-19-20, 09:51 AM
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Welcome back.

With a fixture of that type.... you must follow manufacturers instructions.
Installing a heavy duty box is not enough. That mounting base is not strong enough to hold the light up with just the box. The equally spaced mounting screws support the entire base.

If it was me.... I wouldn't be using those plastic anchors either. I would be using toggle bolts or expanding metal mollies.
 
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Thanks for the reply. For that I will have to ask the building management. This is a condo building built 5 years ago.

I don't want to use the screws they sent me because I don't want to drill that many holes in the ceiling. Not sure if I can use some sort of bracket to fasten the base. The bracket in the photo is the one for the current light.
 
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Old 09-19-20, 10:13 AM
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Your base has 6 threaded rods (red) where the light fixture attaches.
The weight is split on six fasteners.

That's the reason for 6 mounting screws (blue).... one at each threaded rod.

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Thank you PJmax .

That sounds so complicated. I don't think I can handle it and I don't want to do too much to the ceiling. I will have to return this and get smaller/regular flush mount one. This chandelier is so pretty though, ah, have to give it up.

Have a good weekend and stay safe.

I might come back again once get a new one.
 
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Old 09-19-20, 11:04 AM
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I've installed similar and much larger and heavier than that one. It can be challenging.

Remember..... it's just holes..... they can be patched in the future.
 
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yeah, but it's like one thing leads to another, patch the holes then paint....too much work.
 
 

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