Old ceiling cans....one solid piece ??

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Old ceiling cans....one solid piece ??

I have several really old ceiling recessed lights in my kitchen.
I thought it would be an easy job to replace the trims / covers - as the old ones are all yellowed and kind of "burned" ....but I just noticed that the actual trim is a solid piece that seems to be fused with the actual can in the ceiling.....I don't see any clips or springs....

Did you guys encounter such recessed lights ?
I would hate to have to go to the attic, remove all the insulation and actually remove the entire cans....I really just want to replace the inserts....trims or whatever they called/
 
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The trim may be attached to a baffle but it will be removable from below.
 
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Old 10-18-20, 04:52 AM
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Some how, some way they are individual pieces, cans are cans and trim pieces are always separate.

Just need to figure out how they are installed!
 
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Some trims have no visible means of support. They are held in by clips from the rear.
Check out this thread.... replacing-recessed-light.html
 
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Hi, post some pics of the fixtures.
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I see those very small tabs but they are either fused or not intended to be bent..... I tried several times and they wouldn't move at all....
 
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Have you tried pulling it straight down? Some baffles like this have spring "wings" that grip the inside of the housing as it is pushed in. If the spring grips do not slide out (it may sound terrible and feel destructive) they may bend back releasing the baffle.
 
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Those look like Lightolier cans and are similar to the ones I addressed in the link in post 4.
 
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Hi, I would take a utility knife and score around the outer edge to relieve the paint from the trim.
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