Timer 3-way replacement


  #1  
Old 03-10-21, 01:57 PM
S
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 4
Upvotes: 0
Received 0 Upvotes on 0 Posts
Timer 3-way replacement

Hoping to get a little help on what I expected to be a simple replacement. We bought an old house which had the outside lights on a programmable timer. The timer cannot be reprogrammed because it connects to a phone app via an audio jack which my phone doesn't have. So currently my lights are turning on at odd times.

Here was the prior set up and all testing of wires was done with both switches removed:
Original timer had hot wires connected to the line (black) and the traveler (red) screws. Both the red and black wires came from the same romex. The load screw had two black wires and the neutral was pigtailed in the box. No ground connected.
The second 3-way has only two wires. Both the red and white are hot. The white pigtails in the box with multiple black wires.

My new Honeywell timer has a common, and wires 1 & 2.

I would appreciate advice on connecting the new timer.
Thanks,
Steve



Original timer

Original timer

Original timer wiring

2nd 3-way

2nd 3-way wiring

New Timer
 
  #2  
Old 03-10-21, 03:20 PM
J
Member
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: welland ontario
Posts: 7,895
Received 477 Upvotes on 393 Posts
Can you post the english version of the directions.
 
  #3  
Old 03-10-21, 04:06 PM
S
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 4
Upvotes: 0
Received 0 Upvotes on 0 Posts
Instructions

Oops. Didn't realize I had the wrong instructions.
 
  #4  
Old 03-10-21, 05:11 PM
J
Member
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: welland ontario
Posts: 7,895
Received 477 Upvotes on 393 Posts
You don't need the white wire. Remove it from the wire nut with the other whites.
red wire to #2.
The two black are the load. Connect to #1.
The single black is the power connect to C and to the black from the same cable as the red. The other switch should have the black and red connected. The white gets capped.
 
  #5  
Old 03-10-21, 06:00 PM
PJmax's Avatar
Group Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Jersey
Posts: 62,078
Received 3,422 Upvotes on 3,068 Posts
Link in case it's needed..... installation pdf
 
  #6  
Old 03-11-21, 08:52 PM
S
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 4
Upvotes: 0
Received 0 Upvotes on 0 Posts
Clarification

Thank you so much for the advice.

I'm still confused by the prior switch configuration. I don't understand why there are two hot wires on both switches.

I think I understand the wiring you recommend for the new timer.

But I just need a little clarification about the 2nd switch. It originally had only two wires: red and white.

Joed: "The other switch should have the black and red connected. The white gets capped."

So the red stays connected. If the white gets capped, can I just remove it from it's pigtail?
There are two pigtails of black wires: one with a yellow cap and one with a red cap. Which black wire should connect to the 2nd switch?
Thanks!


​​​​​
 
  #7  
Old 03-28-21, 10:37 PM
S
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 4
Upvotes: 0
Received 0 Upvotes on 0 Posts
Clarification

Any advice on which black wire to connect? Or why there are two hot wires going to each switch?
 
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
 
Ask a Question
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: