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09-17-03, 04:23 PM

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Bassboat restoration 2nd attempt

The clear gelcoat on my old Stratos bass boat is dissapearing. I can't find anybody willing to work on metal flake boats. Does anyone have any advise on how to replace the clear coat finish?

I'm also looking for new seating in the drivers area of the boat. (Not the fishing seats front and back) This seating doesn't appear to be available after market. I've browsed all the marine stores, and the dealer says the boat is too old for him to waiste any time talking to me unless I want to buy a new one, (that's the way they make you feel anyway....)

This is my second attempt to post this, sorry about the blank post before.

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09-17-03, 09:23 PM

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Hello Fish Guide. Welcome to our Boats, Pwc's & Navaigations topic and our Do-It-Yourself Web Site.

Regarding the posting error mentioned, that was in no way any fault of yours Fish Guide. During that event, the web site was experiencing technical problems which did not allow questions to be posted. The technical problem has now been resolved.

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09-18-03, 09:47 PM

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You are going to have to repaint the hull.
If the marine shops wont talk to you go to the auto
guys, tell them what you want to do and ask
for LP, linear polyurethane, paint. You will have
a good choice of colors and the application should
be relative to a car paint job. You should
be able to reduce the cost by doing some of the
prepwork yourself.
You can lso mfg the seating yourself. go to the
local upholstry guy, he should be happy to have the work.
i would be.

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09-21-03, 04:31 AM

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I've tried the local upholstery guy, and becuase I want something different then what is in the boat they are scared. It has two buckets with nothing in between now, and I want a three piece so I can seat three across. I'm a guide and rarely take only one client. It's usually two. They consider this "custom fabrication" and start talking about an uphosterer two counties away that did it once.

As for the paint, would this finish be as tough as the original glass, or would it scratch easily like a car?

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09-21-03, 06:51 AM

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Hi: Fish Guide

Would you mind clearifying what you mean by:
You stated :
"I've tried the local upholstery guy, and becuase I want something different then what is in the boat they are scared."

Questions:
What exactly do you mean by "scared"?
Why would a local upholstery guy be scared?
Scared of what?
Liabilty? As in a law suit? Legal proceeding?
If so, what for?
An important point is missing. Kindly clearify.

You stated:
"It has two buckets with nothing in between now, and I want a three piece so I can seat three across."

Question:
Would adding an additional seat, which would allow carrying an additional person, overload the boat? As in exceed the max weight carrying capacity?

I'm not clear on any of the above. Maybe providing the additional information would help us to help you.

Is the boat dealer indicating a new boat for the above reasons. The additional seating could be overloading the max boats weight capacity?

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