5 hp tecumseh won't stay started

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Old 12-12-03, 12:25 PM
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Unhappy 5 hp tecumseh won't stay started

I have 5 hp tecumseh engine on a craftsman snowblower. The engine will not stay started. I have poured a small amount of gas directly into the spark plug hole. Forgive my lack of engine vocabulary. The engine will start for a second, telling me the gas has burned away and I'm getting spark. I think I'm not getting any gas to the engine, yes there is NEW gas in the tank. After tinkering, I've found that after I prime the engine for more than 10 or 20 pumps the engine will fire for less than a second. Maybe that's a clue. Please help me, anyone's helpful remarks would be appreciated.
 
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Old 12-13-03, 12:11 AM
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Hello Illbreakit!

You described the problem well, and diagnosed it correctly! The carburetor is clogged. At the bottom of the carb you will see a bolt head. Remove it and pull the bowl off. Clean out the bowl and look at the screw/bolt that holds it on. There are tiny holes in it. May be as many as 4. Usually 2 oppose each other near the head of the screw, one is near the end and is very tiny, and one going down the center. Make sure all of these are open and free of debris and fuel varnish. This should get you running again.

Let us know how it goes!
 
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Old 12-16-03, 01:24 PM
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I have the same problem, same engine, so I thought I would jump into this thread. A neighbour brought me his snowblower, no start, pour some gas into plug hole and runs about 2 seconds. The bottom of he carb has a little spring loaded button, which I drained a little gas from. The gas smelt very old (varnish), so I removed the carb, float bowl, and used compressed air to clean out the small bolt and any ports I found. Re installed with fresh gas, but problem remains. When I pump the primer button, I hear air moving in the carb, possibly leaking out of a tiny little hole about an inch above where the primer hose hooks on to the carb. Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance.
-Mike
 
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Old 12-16-03, 09:28 PM
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Hello Mike!

The carburetor is still restricted. Sometimes the holes in the bolt you removed will be clogged to the point that you can't even see them. Usually the one that gives this trouble is the very small hole near the end of the threaded end of the bolt. Recheck...you might have to soak the carb in chemdip or similar carb cleaner.
 
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Old 12-16-03, 09:56 PM
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Thumbs up Well I'll be.....it worked ! However......

Mr. Cheese,

Your advice seemed to have done it. I was suprised of the results, being that at first inspection of the bolt that anchors the bowl it didn't appear to be overly clogged or clogged at all. I still proceded to clean in thoroughly and when replaced the engine started immediately. It seems that the fuel system is very sensitive. Upon starting, which brought a smile to my face, the front auger didn't want to turn. The metal wheel that shoots the snow up and out spins fine. I'd assume the front "differential" that turns the auger has a problem. If anyone has some idea on that let me know. Otherwise, thanks again cheese for that advice.

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Old 12-16-03, 10:13 PM
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Glad you got it running! Is it belt driven? Check belts, but other than that, I probably can't give much advice. I wish we had a snowblower expert on here...I live too far south to know anything about them.
 
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Old 12-17-03, 08:35 AM
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You were absolutely correct, Cheese ! I removed the bolt on the float bowl, and recleaned gently with a fine piece of wire, and it started first pull ! I am very grateful for your help. Thank you very much.
I may be able to assist Illbreakit. If you are sure the impeller is turning, there is a shaft that connects the impeller to the auger gear reduction box. On that shaft there is a bolt that runs through the shaft, I believe it is called a sheer bolt, that is supposed to break if you hit something solid (such as a rock), or if the auger has seized up (I hope not). You may find that bolt has snapped off. If this is the case it should be replaced with the same type of bolt for safety reasons. Please be sure you remove the spark plug wire while checking !
-Mike
 
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Old 12-17-03, 01:10 PM
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Illbreakit

Also check that the gear in the auger gear box is not stripped. If you can turn the auger by pushing on it with your foot and the second stage impeller balde doesn't turn the gear box is shot.
Be sure to disconnect the spark plug wire while messing with the front end of the blower.
I hope the shear pin is your problem and not the gear box.
 
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Old 12-17-03, 07:18 PM
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Good job Mike! Glad you got it going!

Illbreakit...let us know if you get the auger turning!
 
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Old 12-26-03, 08:44 PM
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It once was a gear !

My original notion or hope was the shear pin, but no such luck. After disassembling the auger's gear box the problem was clear. The central gear or "worm gear", according to the sears parts department, was shreaded. I'm not sure what material the gear was originally, cheese? I had barely used the snow blower, two or three seasons tops. I'm not so sure about craftsman power equipment. Anyway, thank you all for the words of advice, the part is on it's way as we speak.

thanks,

Illbreakit
 
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Old 12-26-03, 11:47 PM
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lol...maybe it WAS made of cheese. Probably just cast soft metal. Good luck with it and let us know how it goes!
 
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Old 12-30-03, 06:22 PM
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5hp Tecumseh

I have a 5 hp Tecumseh engine on a Toro snow blower. I had the same problem; the engine would start hard and would not stay running. Thanks Cheese, your fix worked for me.
 
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Old 12-30-03, 11:20 PM
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Hello Concrete art!

Great! Glad that you were able to get help from this forum!
 
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Old 01-25-04, 01:57 PM
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Smile It's back together

Sorry for the late update. I've got the snowblower back together and all seems to be working well. Thanks again for the advice, I've been really impressed with this forum.

Thanks,

illbreakit
 
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Old 01-25-04, 09:56 PM
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I have ran across the same problem a couple of times too.
 
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Old 01-25-04, 11:06 PM
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Thanks for the update! Now you can put that thing to work, lol...(is that a good thing??).
 
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Old 02-02-04, 05:12 AM
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Thumbs up Cheese is the man!

Cheese....you're the man! I had the same problem with my
Murray Snowthrower (Tecumseh 2 stroke, 4.5 hp). It would run
when primed past carb but not otherwise. Thanks for helping
so many of us with your know-how!
 
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Old 02-03-04, 09:00 PM
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Awesome! This has turned out to be a productive thread

Glad we were able to help!
 
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Old 05-26-04, 06:38 AM
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Cool 5 hp techumseh smokes

I have a 5 hp Techumseh on a troybuilt roto tiller. It is prob 20 years old, but only gets used three or four hours a year, so I don't think it is worn out.

It starts and runs very well, but after about 10 mins hard work will burp and belch blue smoke, then clear off, then do it again in five mins. The dealer said the air filter was plugged, so I gave him my hard earned for a new one, but have the same prob.

I have taken off the little crankcase ventolator do-hickie and it looks OK, the spring valve is in place etc.

Any ideas?

Rod
 
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Old 05-27-04, 12:58 AM
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Hello Rod!

I saw the other thread you started about this before I saw this one. My reply, and other people's replies, are there.
 
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Old 02-24-07, 10:58 AM
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5 hp Tecumseh Murray Snowblower

I had the same problem with my snowblower, start, run, die. I wish I would have looked here first. Took about 10 minutes to unclog the brass bolt fitting that holds the carb bowl on.

I used a very small sewing needle to clean out the small holes. The small hole in the threaded area is almost undetectable.

Thanks to other posters for saving me a $50 spot for sure.
 
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Old 12-05-12, 11:56 AM
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My 5 hp Canadian snowblower won't start after cleaning the carp

My 5 hp snow blower won't start after I cleaned the car replaced the plug good spark.it turns over but dose not spark I'm getting compression not sure help please snow is getting heavy
 
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