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Old 07-11-06, 06:55 PM
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Electric starter

OK in a pack of mowers the guy dropped of for me to do whatever with was a white outdoor power lawncycle lawnmower self-propelled electric start.The thing is the electric starter does not have enough power to turn over the engine or to even engage. When I turn the key I here a whirrring noise so I know its turning. Only one time did I here it ping when it engaged to the flywheel.How do I charge the onbord battery if this thing has one.I can't plug it in. I cut my backyard with it and it still did not have enough power to engage The engine has to be running for it to charge so why don't it.This is a push mower by the way. ANYBODY got any ideas If I can get the starter working I can get more money for it.
 
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Old 07-11-06, 08:50 PM
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It should take an transformer to charge the battery from a wall outlet, but I doubt the battery is any good. Chances are you'll have to replace it. They often run $50 and more.
 
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Old 07-11-06, 08:54 PM
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Where is it located on a push mower.is it were the key is to start it.The engine is a briggs and stratton 5.5HP.
 
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Old 07-11-06, 08:56 PM
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Usually in a pack on the handlebar or hidden in the mower deck at the rear.
 
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Old 07-11-06, 08:59 PM
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OK I will tare into it tommorrow.
 
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Old 07-11-06, 10:12 PM
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Check the pinion gear on the starter to see if it`s damaged.
If it`s making a whirrr noise that means that the starter is tuning but not engaging the flywheel. A low battery that will still turn the start will not stop it from engaging unless the pinion gear is chewed up.
 
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Old 07-12-06, 12:57 AM
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Yes it will stop it from engaging if it is not turning the starter fast enough for inertia to make the gear travel upwards on the bendix.
 
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Old 07-12-06, 01:04 AM
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Yes it will stop it from engaging if it is not turning the starter fast enough for inertia to make the gear travel upwards on the bendix.
Yeah cause it move freely. Once I got it to engage but it did not turn the motor maby a 1/2 inch at the most.
 
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Old 07-12-06, 05:48 AM
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Bear in mind that not all walk-behind mowers with electric start have a charging system.
 
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Old 07-12-06, 02:20 PM
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OK found the battery

its made by gates energey products.

0819-0050/12V-unreadable 5AH/VR,3347W

cyclon sealed lead rechargable battery

anyone know anything about this battery.I do not have the charger for it so Im going to try and rig somthing up.Can I get a new battery for this mower.Again its a white outdoor power lawncycle lawnmower briggs and stratton 5.5HP engine.The battery is about a foot long and looks like a bunch of C batterys hooked together.

EDIT the engine says diamond power does this mean anything
 

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Old 07-12-06, 08:20 PM
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Are you trying to rig in a new battery, or a way to charge it? If you want to charge it, you might be able to charge it by unplugging the battery and connecting a 12 volt trickle charger to the terminals on the battery. Make sure you get the polarity right.

There is a battery store here in my town that has a battery to fit most anything, or can make multiple cell batteries to fit most things. If you have a store like that near you, it would probably be the best bet. Otherwise, you'd need to contact MTD about buying another.
 
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Old 07-12-06, 08:23 PM
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I was thinking of rigging up a charger or making one.Do they still make this type or is there a better one. I have a small engine shop about 2 blocks that can order parts. Would they be any help.Would a car charger be able to charge this batter my friends has one.
 
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Old 07-12-06, 08:32 PM
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A car battery charger could do it, but I would want to make sure it had a low amp selection and use that. 2 amp would probably be fine.
 
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Old 07-12-06, 08:34 PM
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Hes got a OLD car charger from sears.it as a 6 volt charge and a 12 volt charge I don't know about amps.
 

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OH but what about a small engine shop. Would they be able to order the part or do I need to contact MTD directly.
 
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Old 07-12-06, 09:36 PM
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The small engine shop should be able to get it for you.

The battery charger will (or should) say somewhere on it how many amps it is.
 
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Old 07-13-06, 04:54 PM
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OK he droped off a 1AMP battery charger for 6-12 volt batterys and have it hooked up right now will this work.
 
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That should work fine, it the battery is any good.
 
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Old 07-14-06, 11:23 AM
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OK had it charging for about 9 hours and it cranked for about 10 seconds. I stoped to prime the engine again cause it did not start (did not sound like it was turning fast enough) and it engaged but went dead. So that means the battery is dead right? Im going to try again. Im going to leave it charging for a day or 2 and try again.Theres no danger of over charging is there.Again this is a sealed lead rechargable battery.
 

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Lex,

It's had it..... No more charging . If after 9 hours charging it's not holding the reverse chemical charge; you're wasting electrons. You can charge it till domes day....It's done.

You need a new storage cell! Use those Batt numbers at a local or online supplier.....

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Old 07-15-06, 12:32 AM
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OK found one to replace it with. Its a sealed lead acid battery. Thats what the old one was this is 12 volts like the old one and is rechargible like the old one. This would work right.

http://www.batteries.com/productprof...p?appid=265090
 
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Old 07-15-06, 12:45 AM
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Lex,

If the batt numbers match and ampere hour rating is the same or greater, (at your web address 2.2A/H), is the same as the old batt; then yes!

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Old 07-15-06, 12:53 AM
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The old battery is 2.5 A/H so it would work the new one is 2.2 A/H .3 amp diiference.Won't cause a problem will work good.
 
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Lex,

The very small 300ma/Hour or .3 Amp/Hour rating difference will not cause a problem.

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