30 yr old MTD roto tiller with power reverse

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Old 05-17-08, 03:49 AM
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Question 30 yr old MTD roto tiller with power reverse

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I have an MTD roto tiiller model #217-385-372C that is in good shape, the engine is in good shape but I dont have the manual and want to get the power reverse working. Does anyone out there know this machine? It uses 2 belts and i cant for the life of me figure out what size the reverse belt is and how to properly thread it on to the pulley so the power reverse will work.

Can anyone help me with info on this and possibly a reprinted manual? MTD only has info back to 1985. The B&S engine year code is 77 so i would expect this to be a 79 or 80 model tiller.

can anyone help me?
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Old 05-18-08, 12:40 AM
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Sorry, I don't know, but hang in there...someone here might come along with the info you're looking for.
 
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thanks
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Is any chance did this engine have main crankshaft pully and second smaller pully which it work off from camshaft [ sorta like two crankshafts comming out of the engine ?]

The reason why the main crankshaft is standard roation while the camshaft is reverse rotation and it run half speed of the main crankshaft speed as well.

let us know if that is the situation if not let us know.

I found the website for that unit but it need a serail number i did ran model number it came up that it need serail numbers due over the time they made few changes along the way.

Merci,Marc
 
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Old 05-18-08, 03:27 AM
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30 yr old MTD tiller

No this has a standard horizontal crank B&S 13 cu in engine the reveras is done by reversing the belt drive for the reverse by using a long belt and routing it so it will rotate clockwise which will drive the tines in reverse. Only 1 pully ,1 rotation direction.

And yes it works BUT NOT CORRECTLY!
 
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Old 05-19-08, 04:27 PM
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the only numbers on it are the MTD model number. it is model 217-385-372c the last 4 digits 372c may be the serial number.

will appreciate any help
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30 year old mtd

Hi. I've been a couple of days trying to find out the answer to the same question you asked. Did you get a reply to the routing of the belts? I really can't even identify my tiller. I think it's a Wards tiller and one guy said that mtd made tillers for Wards. I had wizard tiller in my mind for a while, but I don't know what made me think that. Maybe you can help me with this too. I don't have a nameplate, SN or anything from the tiller, but the briggs engine is a pretty common model. I've completely disassembled sand blasted and repaited the whole thing, now trying to put it back in service, I can't see how the power reverse is suppose to work. I'd even email a pic if you would be so willing to help? Or if you have a pic of yours, My email is [email protected]. Thanks and I hope we get our answers. Steve
 
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I think I have the same unit,I downloaded a manual from Jim Compton,Bought the download on e-bay.my MTD rototiller # is 217-412-000,two kevlar drive belts.a safety reverse feature,reverse only works if you pull the lever toward you & stops when you let go.
 
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Chipper man,I sent one of you guys ([email protected])a e-mail with the manual in it,tomorrow I'll go out to the shed and take a look at the routing of the belts,If I can find your e-mail address I'll send you the manual,or you can get it from"limitles"that will list the size of the belts,I've got all that info,because I went through "the beast" last summer,even unfroze the tranny and ball spring levers,adjustable,up-down & swivel handlebars.replaced the drive disc,very important for the reverse feature.I'll be talking to you,Good Luck!
 
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Chipper Man;
I looked up the belt sizes and here they are;
Long V-belt is 5/8 x 51" the short V-belt is 5/8 X 27"
 
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The correct reverse belt is p/n 954-0201. It is routed over the engine pulley then around the front idler. As the idler drops, the belt is pulled against the engine pulley.
 
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I think I have the same MTD./Wards unit. Model #217-385-372 or #217-412-000. I have been unable to find any information on belt drive assembly. If any one has a manual, diagram, part #'s, Photo's or any other info. I realy could use it. thanks [email protected]
 
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Old 03-22-09, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CanuckRoy View Post
The correct reverse belt is p/n 954-0201. It is routed over the engine pulley then around the front idler. As the idler drops, the belt is pulled against the engine pulley.

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Thanks for the information.
 
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Wizard, MTD Rototiller Reverse Belt Routing!!!

Hey! I have the routing diagram that seems to work for both machines. Mine is a 1975 Wizard, but now I've been told it is the same for mtd as well. If you want a pic of the routing for the wizard, or a couple of pdf files for the mtd, I'll be glade to send them to you. Happy gardening to all!
 
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Hey, I got that diagram for your wizard it is different from my MTD. My MTD. has a vertical shaft and the belt drive assembly is underneath the motor. The motor is mounted to a shroud that houses the assembly. If you know anything or have any info on this units drive assembly please let me know thanks [email protected]
 
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Please send the routing diagram and a pic if it is not too much trouble.

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Hey! I have the routing diagram that seems to work for both machines. Mine is a 1975 Wizard, but now I've been told it is the same for mtd as well. If you want a pic of the routing for the wizard, or a couple of pdf files for the mtd, I'll be glade to send them to you. Happy gardening to all!
I have an even older MTD Roto-Tilller. It is Model #215-200 AB2

I need to know how to access the drive belt/s and change them out. I removed 4 screws that hold the cover over the belts and the motor bolts down to. The cover is loose and can be pried up a little but apparently the belts are still preventing me from actually lifting the motor and cover off.
 
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Originally Posted by limitles View Post
Hey! I have the routing diagram that seems to work for both machines. Mine is a 1975 Wizard, but now I've been told it is the same for mtd as well. If you want a pic of the routing for the wizard, or a couple of pdf files for the mtd, I'll be glade to send them to you. Happy gardening to all!
Mine is a later model built by Toro but I am hoping it is the same design. any info you could send me would be helpful? thanks
 
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Does it have the rubber drive wheel for reverse like the 213-385 , manual at
MTD Rotary Tiller Operating Instructions | ManualsOnline
if no rubber wheel maybe it's like this one
http://lawnandgarden.manualsonline.c...214385000.html
as it uses that 954-0201 belt

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Hello to all!
I have an MTD roto tiiller model #217-385-372C that is in good shape, the engine is in good shape but I dont have the manual and want to get the power reverse working. Does anyone out there know this machine? It uses 2 belts and i cant for the life of me figure out what size the reverse belt is and how to properly thread it on to the pulley so the power reverse will work.

Can anyone help me with info on this and possibly a reprinted manual? MTD only has info back to 1985. The B&S engine year code is 77 so i would expect this to be a 79 or 80 model tiller.

can anyone help me?
thanks to all for looking
 
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Old 04-02-10, 08:34 PM
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For an owners manual use:

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I entered the model number 217-385 and got access to the owner's manual.
 
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need repair manual for MTD/Coast to Coast Rototiller

I an MTD 5 HP rototiller with reverse, has 5 hp 12.5 cu inch motor, need belt routing guide and belt sizes, if possible. The numbers I have off the ID plate are as follow mod # 214381054 or is it 214 381 054? also another unidentified number 20622? Iknow this is extremely old but I am trying to repair it for a gal friend who cannot afford a new one, your help would be appreciated, thanks! Bill
 
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