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Old 06-16-08, 10:38 PM
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solenoid question

if you have to hook a wire accross the 2 points on a solenoid for the engine to turn over does that mean the starter switch is bad or the solenoid. this is on a honda scooter don't know the model but its not a moped. this one you can take on the highway.when we hit the start switch nothing. we have to hook a wire across the 2 points to get it to turn over.
 
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By jumping between those terminals, you are bypassing the solenoid. What you need to do is check the other wire to the solenoid, which is the trigger that pulls it in. Use a meter or test light and see if that wire gets voltage when the key is in the start position. If no voltage shows , it is probably the switch. You can also use a jumper wire from the battery positive to the solenoid trigger and if the solenoid clicks, it is okay. the ignition switch would then need to be replaced.
 
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Old 06-18-08, 02:16 PM
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yep solenoid is bad. but thats the least of the problems. its a Honda helix either a 96 or 98. no spark. blew one coil. theres 2 wires coming from the coil. green for ground and a black and yellow one. both are showing ground when tested.also got a plug with a bunch of wires all are showing ground also.we blew one coil when jumping the coil. theres a short somewhere question is where. called a honda shop one guy said to pull the stator off and test it while cranking. if theres power then its the voltage regulator. theres no stator that i can see. he said its 6 wires coming out of the engine theres no such thing. these things ran 6 years ago.
 
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Old 06-18-08, 10:57 PM
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Jumping the coil? You put power to the coil? Why? That's just a quick way to burn it up.

If you're testing the ends of wires that are still connected to their circuits, many of them are going to read ground. They should. It's not necessarily that they're shorted, it's because all electrical circuits go to ground in the end, or else the stuff won't work. Some will not show ground if they are coming from isolated parts of the circuit, like the keyswitch, or from power source areas. These should show nothing, or positive battery voltage. The ones connected to stators, pulse coils, lights, etc... are going to show a ground.
 
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Old 06-18-08, 11:46 PM
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Jumping the coil? You put power to the coil? Why? That's just a quick way to burn it up.
thats what we thought might get it to give spark. theres 2 wires coming out of the coil. ones a green wire the other is a black with a yellow stripe. we hooked power to the black with yellow strip sense we thought that was the power wire that charges the coil. this is a single cylinder liquid cooled engine.swapped out coils from the other bike still no spark. had a manual for these but can't find it. honda wants $85 a hour to work on it.these scooters are the only kind that are highway legal.we turn the key to on everything powers up but no spark, grounded the plug to the engine block no spark removed the green wire from the coil no spark.
 
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