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06-23-09, 08:16 PM   #1  
Craftman Rider will not start

Craftman 4000-14.0 HP OHV-Kohler
Model No. 917.255692

Tractor has been runing fine. It started yesterday . I cut grass for about 15 min. and stopped to talk with someone. Turned the engine off for about 5 min. It started up and went about 50 feet and started to sputter and die. I thought I was out of gas but checked and had plenty of gas. I crank the engine and it does not hit at all. Does not even act like it wants to start. I changed the plug and the fuel filter but no change. Any suggestions where to start.

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06-23-09, 08:49 PM   #2  
Start by checking for spark. Is it full of oil? Did you fill it with gas shortly before this happened?


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06-24-09, 06:30 AM   #3  
It's getting spark, has plenty of oil and no gas added since last use. How much gas should be showing in the fuel filter? The filter is clear and I noticed that only a tiny bit of fuel is visible in the filter.

 
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06-24-09, 06:36 AM   #4  
check if it's getting gas through carb-deere111-

 
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06-24-09, 06:40 AM   #5  
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could be hose- line- from tank to fuel filter.Joseph.

 
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06-24-09, 06:44 AM   #6  
does this tractor have a fuel pump on it -check manual- pump could be bad. Joseph.

 
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06-24-09, 06:54 AM   #7  
OK just to let you know I am not much of a Mechanic. Not sure if it has fuel pump or not. I will check manual. So are you saying there should be more fuel showing in the filter?

 
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06-24-09, 08:19 AM   #8  
Yes it does have a fuel pump. Is this a good idea? Someone told me to check fuel pump. Take fuel line loose. Run line from pump to a can of gas and see if it starts.

 
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06-24-09, 08:42 AM   #9  
Posted By: golfalot It's getting spark, has plenty of oil and no gas added since last use.
Maybe you should add some fresh gas now

I think you have a mechanical fuel pump. If so you can take the fuel line off at the carb, spin the engine and see if you are getting fuel to the carb. If not then check the inlet at the fuel pump.

 
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06-24-09, 10:47 AM   #10  
OK I could not easily get to the line into the carb. i took the fuel line loose at the top of the fuel pump going to the carb. When I spin the engine no gas is pumped up out of the pump. My question is should it and does this mean I probably have a bad pump?

 
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06-24-09, 03:39 PM   #11  
Yes to the first part, it should pump gas from the fitting that goes to the carb.

Second part depends on if you are getting gas to the inlet of the pump.

 
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06-24-09, 04:03 PM   #12  
The pump has gas in it. I can see the gas in the pump. The line seems to be clear. I can blow through it all the way to the tank.

 
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06-24-09, 04:46 PM   #13  
Good chance it is the pump then, I think it is just a diaphragm and gasket maybe a spring to kit it.

 
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06-24-09, 06:41 PM   #14  
Thanks a lot guys. I'm leaving in the morning and will be out of town for a few days. I will tackle this when I return. Again thanks.

 
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06-24-09, 06:49 PM   #15  
Hard to tell without seeing it but are the hoses to and from the pump molded? Meaning are there right angle bends?

I had an issue with a 8HP B&S and the old lines were cracked and I could only replace with factory molded hoses or you would get a kink in a straight line.

Just a thought and something to look at.

 
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06-24-09, 08:13 PM   #16  
Also if the line is cracked or loose anywhere, the pump can suck air instead of pulling gas. Make sure all fuel lines and connections look good.


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07-09-09, 08:04 AM   #17  
Hey just wanted thank you and to let you know. I checked the fuel line and it looked good. So I ordered a fuel pump and installed it. Started up and is running great again. It may be close to 20 years old but as long as it keeps running and cuts grass I will keep using it. Again thank you very much for the help. It saved me a lot of money on a service call.

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07-09-09, 08:23 PM   #18  
Glad you got it and thanks for the update!


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