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07-24-10, 09:27 PM
#1
Fixing a Homelite trimmer--won't start
Hey folks, just got my 32-year-old Craftsman Eager-1 mower going after reading this site. Thanks!!!
Now I'm working on my trimmer. It's a Homelite ST-285BC (UT20581-3) with Walbro carb WT-220-3. I've got all the parts diagrams for trimmer and carb. Trimmer wouldn't run, had hardened fuel hoses and gummy carb when I got it.
Here's what I've done:
- Replace fuel lines and fuel filter
- Cleaned (w/carb spray cleaner) & rebuilt carburetor with kit:
- Cleaned out 3 low-speed holes & replaced Welch plug
- Cleaned out high-speed passage
- Cleaned needles, set 1.5 turns out from seated
- Replaced metering valve & set height (0.6-0.7" from carb face)
- Replaced metering diaphragm & gasket
- Replaced fuel pump diaphragm & gasket
- Replaced primer bulb
- Replaced gas!
- Checked compression, 125 psi
- Checked spark, looks good enough
The thing still won't start. The choke makes it run for just a few revolutions after the first pull; further pulls do nothing. After that, with the choke open, it will occasionally fire for a couple of revolutions at partial or wide open throttle on every third pull or so. No signs of firing at closed throttle.
Only strange thing I've found is on the priming system, when I pump the bulb, air bubbles come out of the return hose, seems it's never fuel. Is that normal?
Thanks for any ideas. This is my second 2-cycle engine after my Poulan chainsaw, which hasn't given me any trouble.
Now I'm working on my trimmer. It's a Homelite ST-285BC (UT20581-3) with Walbro carb WT-220-3. I've got all the parts diagrams for trimmer and carb. Trimmer wouldn't run, had hardened fuel hoses and gummy carb when I got it.
Here's what I've done:
- Replace fuel lines and fuel filter
- Cleaned (w/carb spray cleaner) & rebuilt carburetor with kit:
- Cleaned out 3 low-speed holes & replaced Welch plug
- Cleaned out high-speed passage
- Cleaned needles, set 1.5 turns out from seated
- Replaced metering valve & set height (0.6-0.7" from carb face)
- Replaced metering diaphragm & gasket
- Replaced fuel pump diaphragm & gasket
- Replaced primer bulb
- Replaced gas!
- Checked compression, 125 psi
- Checked spark, looks good enough
The thing still won't start. The choke makes it run for just a few revolutions after the first pull; further pulls do nothing. After that, with the choke open, it will occasionally fire for a couple of revolutions at partial or wide open throttle on every third pull or so. No signs of firing at closed throttle.
Only strange thing I've found is on the priming system, when I pump the bulb, air bubbles come out of the return hose, seems it's never fuel. Is that normal?
Thanks for any ideas. This is my second 2-cycle engine after my Poulan chainsaw, which hasn't given me any trouble.
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07-25-10, 08:08 AM
#3
Does it have a spark arrestor in the muffler? You did not mention that you had cleaned it. If it is clogged, engine will not run.
Remove the arrestor and clean it with a blow torch.
Like previous poster indicated, the return line should return gas and a little bubbling when primer bulb is pressed several times.
Remove the arrestor and clean it with a blow torch.
Like previous poster indicated, the return line should return gas and a little bubbling when primer bulb is pressed several times.
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TX
07-25-10, 09:17 AM
#4
Woo hoo, fixed it!
I thought it was flooded too, but the spark plug was dry. I was about to give up on it, especially after reading all the people here saying that these trimmers are trash. It seemed like I was missing something obvious though, since the compression was very good, and the sides of the pistons looked very clean.
Well, last night I was reading around here and someone was talking about their exhaust screen being all loaded up. Took mine apart today, and while the screen looked 100% clean, the outlet pipe was 100% clogged with mud or something. Cleaned it out with a dental pick, primed it up, and bam, it ran! Took me a minute to set the mix and then I weed-ate the whole yard.
Thanks again DIY.com!
I thought it was flooded too, but the spark plug was dry. I was about to give up on it, especially after reading all the people here saying that these trimmers are trash. It seemed like I was missing something obvious though, since the compression was very good, and the sides of the pistons looked very clean.
Well, last night I was reading around here and someone was talking about their exhaust screen being all loaded up. Took mine apart today, and while the screen looked 100% clean, the outlet pipe was 100% clogged with mud or something. Cleaned it out with a dental pick, primed it up, and bam, it ran! Took me a minute to set the mix and then I weed-ate the whole yard.
Thanks again DIY.com!
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07-25-10, 10:24 AM
#5
Posted By: LawrenceC Does it have a spark arrestor in the muffler? You did not mention that you had cleaned it. If it is clogged, engine will not run. [...]Hey LawrenceC, didn't see your post about the spark arrestor until just now. Wish I'd seen it earlier! I was just too focused on the carb.
Like previous poster indicated, the return line should return gas and a little bubbling when primer bulb is pressed several times.
I don't know why, it feels like it's all air going through the primer. If I pinch the return hose a little with my fingers I can feel the air going through, and as expected, nothing being sucked back. Yet the primer seems to work, so I won't worry.
Thanks for everyone's replies, I'm pretty stoked!
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