Multi power generators connected on the same power line
#1
08-27-13, 04:51 AM
Multi power generators connected on the same power line
I have 3 engines and I would like to connect them onto the same power line to power up a bakery. Everything is electrical. It will be during the winter. So I will also be needing to use the electrical heat pumps.
The first step is make a generator out of each. Please assist me in the parts that I would need.
Do they all need to produce the same output or is that not important?
I assume that it would be connected like this.
First the engine will be connected to an alternator with a belt.
The alternator will be connected to a power transformer and the power transformer will be connected to the power stabilizer
Please correct the steps that are above. What parts should I choose for the power to be able to work on a 10KW with 1000amps? (This power is requirement is much more than needed, it is just to make sure that it wont die on me)
This is only for experimental purposes. It will be running for 3 months non-stop so it has to be all good quality parts.
The first step is make a generator out of each. Please assist me in the parts that I would need.
Do they all need to produce the same output or is that not important?
I assume that it would be connected like this.
First the engine will be connected to an alternator with a belt.
The alternator will be connected to a power transformer and the power transformer will be connected to the power stabilizer
Please correct the steps that are above. What parts should I choose for the power to be able to work on a 10KW with 1000amps? (This power is requirement is much more than needed, it is just to make sure that it wont die on me)
This is only for experimental purposes. It will be running for 3 months non-stop so it has to be all good quality parts.
#4
08-27-13, 06:51 AM
Group Moderator
You talk about 10k with 1000 amps ?
You need to add up the power requirements for all the equipment you need to power and go from there. A 10k generator will run 1 heat pump......maybe 2 maximum.
I don't think you can get a big enough belt driven generator to be effective.
You can't use three engines to drive one generator. You could use three engines and three generators but you would need a way to keep them in phase.
You need to add up the power requirements for all the equipment you need to power and go from there. A 10k generator will run 1 heat pump......maybe 2 maximum.
I don't think you can get a big enough belt driven generator to be effective.
You can't use three engines to drive one generator. You could use three engines and three generators but you would need a way to keep them in phase.
#5
08-27-13, 09:28 AM
Group Moderator
Even having the engines already you are probably better off getting one generator of the proper size. Especially since you want it to run continuously. And, since you already have three engines lying around I assume they are used or scrapped from other equipment so they may not be reliable enough for your needs.
Getting three separate AC generators to work together on the same system requires frequency matching in addition to load controls which get's technical and expensive. Again one big generator may be cheaper.
If you really want to have three separate generators it would be easier to have each supply it's own independant power system. That way their frequencies do not have to be in sync and the load on one will not affect the others. Then it's a simple generator system, just done three times. It is critical though that the three generators not be connected together or to the domestic power grid. Very bad things can happen very quickly as the laws of physics try to bring them all to the same phase.
Getting three separate AC generators to work together on the same system requires frequency matching in addition to load controls which get's technical and expensive. Again one big generator may be cheaper.
If you really want to have three separate generators it would be easier to have each supply it's own independant power system. That way their frequencies do not have to be in sync and the load on one will not affect the others. Then it's a simple generator system, just done three times. It is critical though that the three generators not be connected together or to the domestic power grid. Very bad things can happen very quickly as the laws of physics try to bring them all to the same phase.
#7
08-27-13, 12:42 PM
Super Moderator
You haven't given a single detail as to what you want to power (exact voltage and amperage requirements), what kind of "engines" you have (diesel, gas, propane, size, horsepower, etc), how you plan to supply them with fuel, why they have to run continuously for 3 months, why you can't pull off the electrical grid, etc, etc, etc. You want 10kw at 1000 amps? So your voltage will only be 10V? What kind of output do the engines have? A shaft? How will you connect it to the generator that you'll need to buy? Where will you buy the generators? How much cash do you have? If the cash is unlimited, why not sell the engines you have and buy a generator designed for such use?
You may as well say you have 3 rocket motors and you want to reach orbit, what should you buy and how do you build it, step by step.
I just don't understand why you ask such questions on a predominantly North American home repair site for DIY types. You should find a Engineer and Design It for Me site. I'm sure they exist somewhere.
Please don't get upset...I'm just stating a simple fact.
You may as well say you have 3 rocket motors and you want to reach orbit, what should you buy and how do you build it, step by step.
I just don't understand why you ask such questions on a predominantly North American home repair site for DIY types. You should find a Engineer and Design It for Me site. I'm sure they exist somewhere.
Please don't get upset...I'm just stating a simple fact.
#8
08-27-13, 03:32 PM
Super Moderator
Just so it's clear to everyone...a few facts weren't disclosed. Received via PM.
Please give this thread all the attention it deserves.
The truth is that I don't have 3 engines. What I am planning to do is to make a free energy generator that I found on the below site. The site sells a book that explains how to do it.
