HELP 1991 MTD ruding mower blades always spinning
#41
08-30-15, 07:07 PM
I will check the deck measurements in the morning. If the deck is out of wack how do i adjust it so front and back are even?
#42
08-30-15, 08:05 PM
Another thing to check - if you look at the pair of pics from the side of the deck, up at the crank pulley you see a fairly long hex bolt, about 1/2 inch diameter and 6 inches long or so. There should be another one of those on the other side of the drive pulley.
I suspect that pair of bolts hold the belt in to keep it from flaring out and dragging on the drive pulley when the deck is disengaged. You have one for sure on the right hand side. See if you have the one on the left side.
I suspect that pair of bolts hold the belt in to keep it from flaring out and dragging on the drive pulley when the deck is disengaged. You have one for sure on the right hand side. See if you have the one on the left side.
#43
08-31-15, 08:03 AM
Ok, so i measured the distance between the ground and the bottom of the deck and found the front was 4IN offthe ground an the rear was 3 1/4 in off the fround so the front is 3/4" higher than the back
#45
08-31-15, 08:10 AM
Ok, i did one more measurement and at the middle of te back of the deck it was about 3" and at the middle if the front it was 5" . On the previous post i posted the height from the edge of the front where the deck started to curve
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08-31-15, 08:18 AM
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The important measurement is with the deck in the engaged position not not all the way up. If the deck is level when lowered, that should be the main thing.
Although this method of PTO works and has done so for many years, it is still a poor mans PTO.
You might try stepping on the right side of the deck and see if the blades stop once the deck no longer touches the belt...
I don't recall nor see any "adjustments" ( MTD 131-662F118/SWC#28217 Parts List and Diagram - (12.5/38) : eReplacementParts.com )
Measure the deck with it lowered and see if it is level.
This works with a type of bell crank that when raised to the last notch, the deck should move slightly forward and up, of course it should do so remaining level and if it is not then I would suspect obstruction, bent worn or loose parts, springs improperly connected...etc.
You may need to remove the deck for better inspection of "stabilizer/lift" assembly.
Although this method of PTO works and has done so for many years, it is still a poor mans PTO.
You might try stepping on the right side of the deck and see if the blades stop once the deck no longer touches the belt...
I don't recall nor see any "adjustments" ( MTD 131-662F118/SWC#28217 Parts List and Diagram - (12.5/38) : eReplacementParts.com )
Measure the deck with it lowered and see if it is level.
This works with a type of bell crank that when raised to the last notch, the deck should move slightly forward and up, of course it should do so remaining level and if it is not then I would suspect obstruction, bent worn or loose parts, springs improperly connected...etc.
You may need to remove the deck for better inspection of "stabilizer/lift" assembly.
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08-31-15, 08:31 AM
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If the guides on each blade pulley are missing, the belt will flex out too far and grab on the engine pulley.
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Here is some info that might help you out....
How to Adjust the Deck on an MTD Riding Lawnmower | eHow
How to Adjust the Deck on an MTD Riding Lawnmower | eHow
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08-31-15, 01:53 PM
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The measurements and such should be similar...if yours are too far off then as I said prior...something is bent, worn, missing, installed incorrectly etc.
#55
09-01-15, 06:26 PM
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I can't tell by looking if that particular model depends on the guards to hold the belt around the pulley when the blades are off or not, but many of the MTD products do and with the guards removed, the belt will flex outward enough to allow dragging on the engine pulley enough to turn the blades.
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09-26-15, 08:14 PM
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Did you install the missing cover? Did you adjust the tab ont he deck lift handle or the sector it catches on to raise the deck a bit more?
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09-26-15, 08:29 PM
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Since cheese was a party pooper lol (Jk bud)
Unfortunately this system can be a bit complicated and difficult to pinpoint an issue as you are having without laying hands/eyes on it. While the problem may very well be worn/bent/damaged parts, it might also be incorrect mounting of the deck if it had been removed.
You should have a square steel "Pan" for lack of a better word, at the rear of the deck with a 1/4" or so rod going through several points. Also two or more springs involved.
One thing about MTD or at least used to be, is they have manuals for viewing or download with detailed instructions and IPL's.
I can only suggest from my own early trial and errors, then learning how easy these decks can be and how effective they can be over even more expensive machines, that you remove the deck completely, you should then have 4 mounting points exposed, ensure that those 4 points raise and lower in conjunction with each other.
I might be able to find the manual to help you install the deck but will need time to research or go back and find any model # you have posted.
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You should have a square steel "Pan" for lack of a better word, at the rear of the deck with a 1/4" or so rod going through several points. Also two or more springs involved.
One thing about MTD or at least used to be, is they have manuals for viewing or download with detailed instructions and IPL's.
I can only suggest from my own early trial and errors, then learning how easy these decks can be and how effective they can be over even more expensive machines, that you remove the deck completely, you should then have 4 mounting points exposed, ensure that those 4 points raise and lower in conjunction with each other.
I might be able to find the manual to help you install the deck but will need time to research or go back and find any model # you have posted.
Azis
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09-26-15, 09:16 PM
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I don't know if it's a shadow or what but it looks like the belt is on backwards. It looks likes like the bevels are facing out. Ya'll look good and tell me what yall think !!
And that would make the belt shorter than it actually is because it's not seating right in the pulleys. Hence too tight and SMOKIN !!
And that would make the belt shorter than it actually is because it's not seating right in the pulleys. Hence too tight and SMOKIN !!
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09-26-15, 09:27 PM
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Please take another picture of the belt with good lighting. One with the belt on the pulleys and crank pulley.
#63
09-26-15, 09:47 PM
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Looks like it's on right to me. You can see the back flat side on the engine pulley pretty clearly.
#64
09-27-15, 07:00 AM
Looks like the belt is on right but there's a bend in it just above the front edge of the deck. If that is the case there would be a misalignment of the pulleys.
#67
09-27-15, 09:14 AM
Just to clarify, is there any way on my model to adjust the height of the deck front to back? When i step on the front or put a board under the back the belt doesnt drag, the belt doesnt smoke and the blades dont spin.
#69
09-27-15, 12:47 PM
Thanks guys. I finaly figured it out today. The belt guard i installed wasnt on right. Adjusted it so it fit correctly and it prevents the belt from bowing out. No smoke and blades stop. And again sorry for confusing everyone with the other thread
