Toro recycler 6hp strange issue

Reply

  #1  
Old 08-29-16, 01:07 PM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 13
Toro recycler 6hp strange issue

Hello all, new here to the forums and I've searched and searched but can't find anything like the issue I have.

Basically I'll start the mower up just fine 2-3 pulls every time. Then it'll run great for about 15 seconds then slowly dies. No matter what I do. Loosen gas cap, prime it, take air filter off, starter fluid to intake. After that I need to reprime and it'll take about 10 pulls and it'll start up and run forever. Feels a little bogged down after that though. I've changed the carburetor with a known working one, replaced the spark plug, replaced the spark plug coil, and air filter. Feels like I've done more but can't think of it right now.

Any advice or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
 
Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 08-29-16, 02:21 PM
Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,365
Clamp off the fuel line and remove it from the carb put a container under the fuel line remove the clamp and see if you have good flow and if it will drain the tank without stopping that would rule out a bad fuel cap. Some mowers have a bell shaped splash guard in the cap and sometimes it falls off and will float over the fuel outlet as the fuel is drawn out the line shutting off the fuel. Have a good one. Geo
 
  #3  
Old 08-29-16, 04:21 PM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 13
Thanks for the suggestion, I just gave it a shot and had a nice flow didn't slow down at all. I have replaced the gas cap as well after I decided to forget to put it on and ran the old one over.
 
  #4  
Old 08-29-16, 06:01 PM
Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,365
Confused, does it still die? Have a good one. Geo
 
  #5  
Old 08-29-16, 06:11 PM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 13
Yep, after I tried your suggestion and drained the gas i put new gas back in and fired it up and same thing still going on. Died after about 15 seconds. I've fixed quite a few motors before and never had an issue like this.
 
  #6  
Old 08-29-16, 06:29 PM
Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,365
Could you post the model number for the mower and or engine. The idle circuit could be clogged depending what carb it has. Have a goodone. Geo
 
  #7  
Old 08-29-16, 07:17 PM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 13
Yes sorry, the model number on the engine is LV195XA. And just to clarify once it goes through the start and die cycle and I get it running again it does not die at all. Just feels a little less powerful than it should.

Thanks.
 
  #8  
Old 08-29-16, 10:29 PM
cheese's Avatar
Forum Topic Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: USA
Posts: 16,815
Drop the carburetor bowl and observe the flow of fuel through there. These have a rubber inlet seat that swells up and closes off the opening, restricting the flow of fuel. It sounds like the engine is using the fuel as fast as it can get it and still running just a bit short of enough.
 
  #9  
Old 08-30-16, 05:04 PM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 13
I've never even though to do that but it's a pretty good trick, I checked it out and it seems to drain out just fine. Not sure the pace it should drain at like that but it seemed pretty good and steady to me.
 
  #10  
Old 08-30-16, 05:29 PM
cheese's Avatar
Forum Topic Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: USA
Posts: 16,815
Does this engine smoke or use oil? From the description of the problem, it sounds like lack of fuel or low compression. You seem to have the fuel issue covered pretty much.
 
  #11  
Old 08-30-16, 06:04 PM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 13
I really have never seen it smoke at all unless I tip it up a little too far. As far as oil goes there is absolutely no oil residue anywhere and the level hasn't dropped at all.

Thanks
 
  #12  
Old 08-30-16, 07:30 PM
cheese's Avatar
Forum Topic Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: USA
Posts: 16,815
Might be worth checking the flywheel key, it could be "pushed" or partially sheared.
 
  #13  
Old 08-30-16, 07:57 PM
Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,365
I misread the first post as 15 minutes instead of 15 sec, so it is not the fuel cap, and after checking the model number it should have a regular type carb and not the series 7 Cheese is referring. If it has a nut in the bottom of the bowl then the problem is the tiny hole near the top which is almost invisible, I use the wire from a twist tie to clean it, refer to the pic below. Have a good one. Geo

[ATTACH=CONFIG]70292[/ATTACH]
 
Attached Images  
  #14  
Old 08-30-16, 08:22 PM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 13
Wow that thing really is almost invisible. I've cleaned the larger jets on those types of nuts many time and have never noticed that one. Sure enough I pulled it pushed a pin in and there was a glob of dirt stuck in it. A little too late to start the mower up now but I'll give her a try once I get home tomorrow and hopefully it'll go well.

Thank you very much.
 
  #15  
Old 08-31-16, 03:37 PM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 13
Just got home and fired it up and you were right. Stayed running like a champ.

Thank you so much for your help this has been driving me
Crazy.
 
  #16  
Old 08-31-16, 05:45 PM
Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,365
The sound of success is a wonderful thing, sorry it took me so long to realize I misread the original post. Have a good one. Geo
 
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Display Modes