Painting popcorn ceiling in kitchen
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07-29-04, 05:32 AM
Painting popcorn ceiling in kitchen
After 10 years of grease, grime and dirt, I need to paint the popcorn ceiling in my kitchen. I've vacuumed the ceiling the best I can, but there's still a greasy feeling to it. How can I clean that off, or can I before I paint? Any particular paint that needs to be used if I cannot get the grease off? Thanks! 
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07-29-04, 08:56 AM
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you can't clean popcorn ceilings. just use a really thick roller & paint over it with 'ceiling white' paint. if it's never been painted in 10 years, it'll soak up that paint like a sponge, so be prepared to use a lot of paint!
our kitchen with popcorn ceiling hadn't been painted in about 12 years, but we didn't have any problem painting it, or getting the paint to stick, or anything. and had you wrote in earlier, i'd have told you not to mess with even trying to vacuum it first - the paint will just cover over all the dust & cobwebs & stuff. you'll be amazed how great (and white!) it will look when you're done!!
have fun - it's a mess!!!
(but worth it!)
our kitchen with popcorn ceiling hadn't been painted in about 12 years, but we didn't have any problem painting it, or getting the paint to stick, or anything. and had you wrote in earlier, i'd have told you not to mess with even trying to vacuum it first - the paint will just cover over all the dust & cobwebs & stuff. you'll be amazed how great (and white!) it will look when you're done!!
have fun - it's a mess!!!
(but worth it!)
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07-29-04, 12:07 PM
Just a thought. You need to get the grease off. Try this -get some Soilax pro in the pain store.Add it to hot water and apply it to the ceiling with a 1 inch nap roller. Let it sit a minute and take it off with another 1 inch nap rolled that is just slightly damp with the soilax mixture. finish with a slightly damp clean roller. Soilax leaves no residue and is an exellent cleaner. I wouldn't paint a kitchen without it. This method is just a thought and will probably work. Before you paint the whole ceiling see if it is clean enough by painting the ceiling over or near the stove with a brush if it starts to bead up you need to clean more.
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07-29-04, 12:16 PM
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sorry - i have to disagree
that might work just fine for a regular smooth ceiling or walls, but that will take the popcorn right OFF of a popcorn ceiling!!! you do NOT want to do that. the moisture from the paint alone can sometimes loosen the popcorn and take it right off, if you roll too much in one area. then you'll have a smooth patch - not good!!! speaking of which, you want to load up your roller real good with paint and just roll it on the ceiling in one or two passes, then move on! do not try to go back & re-roll any areas til that first coat is completely dry. if you do, like i said, that texture will come right off.
i've been around these popcorn ceilings all my life & we've never had a problem painting them, even in the kitchen. i don't think any cleaning is necessary.
i've been around these popcorn ceilings all my life & we've never had a problem painting them, even in the kitchen. i don't think any cleaning is necessary.
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07-29-04, 01:32 PM
chesapeaklady has ,as they say, a problemo. If Annette says it is ok then I cannot dissagree. However I would still try to remove the grease. Maybe this way. Fill a spray bottle with the soilax and water.Spray the ceiling in a small area and pat it off with a clean damp or dry grout sponge. It doesn't need to be rinsed. Maybe have a fan blowing on it. Let it dry for a day or 2. Soilax emulsifies grease on contact it does not need to be left on to do its job and this method may clean the ceiling and preserve the look. I am sure Annettes' method will work but I have always and I mean always cleaned everything I have painted especially kitchen ceilings. This may very well be impossible to clean but I would at least try it in a small area and see.If Annette says this is not an option then I would go with what she says
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07-29-04, 01:46 PM
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I have always and I mean always cleaned everything I have painted especially kitchen ceilings.
.......and i have never, and i mean never, cleaned a popcorn ceiling before painting it!
ok - maybe this will settle this: has the ceiling EVER been painted? if it's NEVER been painted before, (and you can tell because all the little popcorns will be really defined & pointy, as opposed to sort of smoothed out & rounded a little from repeated paintings), then do not attempt this cleaning method. if it HAS been painted, then it's sort of "sealed" and won't be as likely to come off, so you might get away with this "cleaning".
but, i still say that it's just simply not necessary. i've never had any trouble in a kitchen, but maybe she cooks with a deep-fryer every night or something! i suppose it's possible that there really is a lot of greasy residue up there. i think there's probably a primer out there that could be used to prepare the surface to hold the paint, which might be a better route than trying to clean, but i'm not sure what that product would be...........pro's???
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07-29-04, 02:33 PM
Painting popcorn ceiling
Bawwahahahahahahhahaaaaaa Sheesh! Nope, no deep fryer in this shack. I'm off to the local store tomorrow and get a big, nappy roller and paint. This is the first painting over this ceiling, so I'm expecting a big mess, that's for sure. I'm hoping that 2 gallons will do it. Thanks Annette and Jon for all the suggestions and help.
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07-29-04, 06:52 PM
Popcorn ceiling in Kitchen
I'm sorry I have to chime in so late,
The first thing to remember is that popcorn texture is a water based medium, it is basically plaster which will break down with water. You should not use water in any way to "clean" popcorn, it will soften the product, and because popcorn texture doesn't really have any binders in it like paint does, it will fall off the ceiling if it gets too wet. I have always primed the ceiling with a quick dry Oil-Based primer, than paint with whatever you want. I have gotten great results with Ben Moores Super Spec Oil products for this type of situation, don't prime just roll it on, let dry over night and than recoat, it can also be tinted. And as Annette said earlier roll it on, back roll it, than move on. I've also found with popcorn if you roll in a random pattern (vs. straight line) you won't get track marks.
Hope this helps
Painterman
The first thing to remember is that popcorn texture is a water based medium, it is basically plaster which will break down with water. You should not use water in any way to "clean" popcorn, it will soften the product, and because popcorn texture doesn't really have any binders in it like paint does, it will fall off the ceiling if it gets too wet. I have always primed the ceiling with a quick dry Oil-Based primer, than paint with whatever you want. I have gotten great results with Ben Moores Super Spec Oil products for this type of situation, don't prime just roll it on, let dry over night and than recoat, it can also be tinted. And as Annette said earlier roll it on, back roll it, than move on. I've also found with popcorn if you roll in a random pattern (vs. straight line) you won't get track marks.
Hope this helps
Painterman
