Ext. Paint preferences?

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Old 07-15-05, 02:03 PM
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Ext. Paint preferences?

OK I've asked this question before: What do you all prefer for exterior paint brands. The one that came up the most was Sherwin-Williams DURATION.

Well after sanding, scraping, and washing I'm finally ready for primer and paint. I went down to the local Sherwin-Williams store and Holy Man! $45/gallon is a little out of my budget! So I was wondering if any of you had experience with the Sherwin Williams SUPERPAINT? It's the next notch down from DURATION and it's on sale right now (buy one gallon get the next half off.) which puts it right in my bugdet of about $27.50/gallon. Are all Sherwin-Williams products considered above average quality or is the SUPERPAINT just another ordinary quality paint that I could find in another brand for cheaper.

The last exterior paint I used was SEARS 20year at $18/gallon and I won't make that mistake again. It took at least three coats to cover and it started peeling before the first year was up. There has to be something in between the SEARS quality and the DURATION quality that will last at least a few years.

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Old 07-15-05, 04:27 PM
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Super Paint is a great paint but from what I'm hearing Duration is the best. That said I painted my garage with Super Paint and am very happy with the results. It does have a 25 year warranty.
 
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Old 07-19-05, 09:28 AM
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Thanks SLICKRACER that's all I needed. Superpaint it is! We've been remodeling this house out of pocket since we moved in. 20 gallons of Duration would cost us over $900, the Superpaint at the sale price will cost us closer to $500. "If it's good enough then it's good enough"
 
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Super Paint was SWP's best until they came out with Duration.
 
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Old 07-19-05, 09:40 PM
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Duration far superior....for one good reason:

It's a 100% acrylic resin based paint. Unsurpassed durability, surface hardness, mildew resistance.

Super Paint is just an acrylic-fortified enhanced latex paint.....much less durable.
I've started a post recently about this: "100% Acrylic vs. Acrylic Latex"....

The acrylic "mis-labeling" is a huge rip-off IMHO in the paint industry.
Where's the government when we need them ?

In my research I discovered something interesting:
You can't buy a 100% acrylic resin FINISH paint at Home Depot.
Not available...nowhere to be found.

But....Lowe's has it: Olympic Premium with 100% Acrylic Duralife Formula.
Fabulous paint. Best kept secret in America: the Olympic Paint website doesn't even mention it. http://www.ppg.com
If anyone can find mention of it, let me know.
 
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Hmmm, interesting. Does anybody have any reviews or consumer reports on Olympic Duralife?

How does it apply? One coat? Is there complex prep involved?

The reason I ask is because Olympic to me has always been in the lower quality group, not bottom of the line mind you, but like Glidden, Sears, C&C. I think a lot of contractors use it because it's inexpensive. I know Sherwin-Williams has been proven as top quality over time. But every once in a while the mainstream brand will suprise. I guess I'll do some more research.
 
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I also heard that the Ace Hardware brand paint is good quality.

Oh yeah, DBCoop, does your last name start with an I?
 
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boiselifer: I've heard that too about ACE brand and no my initals are DB

Well to start off I just got some KillZ Premium Latex Exterior primer with Acrylic. The acrylic idea intrigues me because of it's flexability. Since I have an old house and live in an earthquake zone I thought I would give it a try. I have some old cedar shingles that I just scraped and power washed the old paint. I have some horizontal fir lap siding that we took down to the bare wood. Does this need some kind of penetrator or conditioner and will it work with latex primer? Then I will use Sherwin_williams Superpaint to cover everything. Hopefully I won't re-doing all this next year
 
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sorry but Sherwin-Williams....

highly over-rated and moreover HIGHLY OVERPRICED than competitors like PPG (Olympic) and others.
I finally quit using Sherwin Williams urethane paints (yes, I paint cars too) when the price for a pint of "Classic Red" for a Mazda Miata zoomed to $85 per PINT ! (That's $680 per gallon equivalent).
I'm now using PPG exclusively at "half-price" of S-W.

Latest joke in the autobody/painting biz: "

"You scratch your car ? It's totalled".
 
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Originally Posted by marksimms
highly over-rated and moreover HIGHLY OVERPRICED than competitors like PPG (Olympic)
The SW Superpaint is on sale right now which prices it at about $27.50/gallon which is less than the top of the line Oly paint. I didn't find the 100% acrylic Oly at Lowe's but I did see a Valspar product that was 100% acryl. I've had good luck with Valspar top of the line stuff and bad luck with their bottom cheap stuff. They are made locally here in the PNW and are known for their marine finishes but have gone into the house paint (American Tradition) business through Lowe's. But for the price I'll take my chances on the SW. I've heard nothing but good things from the pros.
 
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I can't speak for car paint, but for homes, SW is not over-priced nor over-rated. With all the hoopla on this site about Behr and others, I tested a couple gallons of different big-box paints at my own house. I will never use any of them ever again. I now understand why so many h/o hate to paint. If those brands were all I had available, I'd hate it too. SW and other quality paints go on so much easier, cover so much better. It takes me less time to paint a room with a quality paint, then using one of those big-box brands.
And then there are the little things that I guess only someone painting often would notice and appreciate.
 
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