hiding imperfections and patches


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Old 01-30-06, 06:11 PM
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hiding imperfections and patches

I just repainted a room that was covered with wall paper, as i stripped the paper it left a bunch of marks, so i spackled the small scratches and holes. after sanding, i painted with an enamel eggshell paint. after it dried it shows every patch and imperfection on the wall.

it seemed like i did a pretty good job filling and sanding the knicks and dings but every little bump in the wall is now showing. I've tryied to re sand, smooth the wall but the paint peals off like rubber and make a larger imperfection on the wall...is there something i can do to fix this....sand, primer and re paint or does this type of paint show all imperfections on walls

also, i painted two days ago, if i wait a few more days for ultimate drying will the paint may sand smoother?????? so i can re-prime and paint
help///////JC
 
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Old 01-30-06, 06:25 PM
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If the paint peels off like rubber you've got other issues

As I can't see it, I hope you don't mind me asking a few questions

Did you use spackle or joint compound?

Did you prep the wall any particular way before spackling?

Did you prep or prime the wall or patches in any particular way before painting?


Normally the best way to fix imperfections is to "skim coat" a layer of joint compound over the imperfections to sort of smooth them out
With the peeling paint I'd hold off on that until we figure out whats going on
 
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Old 01-30-06, 06:46 PM
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imperfections and patches

i used light weight all purpose joint compound (premixed)

prior to patching, i stipped all wallpaper, washed all glue of walls then patched knicks and dings with the above

i then sanded with damp spong and then 220 grit paper and then primed the entire room...the wall looked smooth but i could see the the patches though the primer...i painted two coats with enamel eggshell.

i think the peeling is becuase the paint is not 100% dried......the second coat was applied approximately 30 hours ago>>>>>??????

any suggestions

JC
 
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Old 01-30-06, 06:52 PM
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What type/kind of paint?
 
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Old 01-30-06, 06:58 PM
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behr premium plus..interior eggshell enamel deep base
 
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Old 01-31-06, 01:07 AM
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same problem...

I just finished getting the wallpapper off, what a mess. I don't have peeling paint ( I used a semi-gloss, Behr), but every imperfection is seen. Would a 2ND PRIMER COAT HELP?
 
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Old 01-31-06, 05:05 AM
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These problems would not be unusual with this particular product
Long, long, drying times and so-so adhesion and coverage, and showing/leaving imperfections

Here's the deal
I'd recommend this for both of you:

Clean and sand
Clean up these walls good, get any adhesive residue off, scrape any loose/peeling paint
Sand well
A sanding screen (sometimes called a drywaller's screen) on a pole makes short work of this
Use a medium grit screen, or coarse if the wall is in that kind of shape



At this point step back and make an assessment of you project
How smooth does it look?

Wipe the walls down
I'd recommend a swiffer on a stick

Skim coat a layer of joint compound over any dings that you think may show through
Also skim coat around any patches previously made that showed through for lack of sanding
The idea is to "smooth out" the surface as much as possible
You've sort of got an idea of what shows through now, so it shouldn't be too hard to spot the spots

Sand the walls, mostly the patches, with a fine screen
pay particular attention to the patches and take care to "feather" the edges to smooth them out

Wipe the walls down
I love that swiffer

Step back and take a careful look at the walls
If you think they need another skim coat, go for it
If they look good and your ready to paint, you'll have to make another judgment

If your patches are large, you'll want to prime
Spot priming is OK, but you'll want to feather sand the edges after it's dry

If your patches are small or minimal (like small cracks filled), you may not need to prime, just an extra coat of paint to make avoid flashing (sheen changes)

If the wall now has a lot of joint compound on it, it may be better to prime the wall

Don't forget to wipe down the walls if you sand again

Now you should be ready to paint

Get some good quality paint from your Local Paint Shop
Your Local Paint Shop is the best place for quality paint materials, tools and advice
It doesn't matter if it's Ben Moore or Sherwin Williams

Don't get the cheapo or commercial grade line from them

Flat or eggshell will show less imperfections than satin or semi

If you don't have them, get a quality brush (Purdy, Corona) and roller sleeves (Purdy, Wooster)
Again, don't get the cheapo no-name valu-pak
Trust me these thing will help
You wouldn't believe what a cheapo sleeve leaves on, and pulls up from the wall

Now paint the wall(s) with that good stuff
After it's dry, check to see if you think you need any more skimming
Hopefully not at this point, it should look pretty good
Sand and swiffer if you think it needs it
But again, hopefully not at this point

Paint the second coat of good stuff
Let dry

It should look pretty good
 
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Old 01-31-06, 01:32 PM
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Hey Slick~

Thanks for the Swiffer suggestion. Its a great idea!

Im still wiping walls the old way - a broom or sponge-mop wrapped with a lint-free rag.
 
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I love the Swifter!!!
 
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slick,

do i need to sand all the new paint off or just where the imperfections and patches are showing.....i assume i should sand thoughly thru paint and then simply rought up the areas that look OK then clean and repatch, prime and paint????

thanks for the help

JC
 
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Originally Posted by hlsjmc1
do i need to sand all the new paint off or just where the imperfections and patches are showing...
The sanding is not to remove the paint, it's to "scuff" it up so new paint or joint compound will adhere better

This assumes the paint on there now is adhering well

I myself would concentrate on those areas, but go over the rest quickly before I put the screen and pole away
It only takes a few minutes and will ensure a better bond
 
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And yes, Swiffers Rock!

That stick/handle folds right up
Takes up no room in the van
 
 

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