Prepping Kitchen Walls and Ceiling for Painting
#1
02-04-09, 05:03 PM
Prepping Kitchen Walls and Ceiling for Painting
Hi all,
I'm preparing to repaint my kitchen walls and ceiling. The previous owner had painted them both the same drab color and its got to go.
The paint is fairly glossy (not sure if its oil or latex based) and is probably at least 8 years old.
I've read up a bit on this and picked up a DryWall Sanding Screen to roughen up the surface and some Trisodium Phosphate for cleaning the walls.
A few questions came to mind that I thought I would post here:
- Do I clean the walls with the TSP first THEN roughen them up with the Drywall Screen. I'd assume if thats the process, I would wash the walls, rinse the walls, roughen the walls, then wipe them down again with a damp rag to get the dust off is that right?
- Do I have to use the TSP on all the walls (about 300sf) or just the areas near the oven/stove? Do I have to do the ceiling too?
- I should definitely prime before painting, right?
We're also repainting our cabinets. They were already painted white but need to be repainted. They are a mess and actually a bit warped but we can deal with it for a few more years before replacing.
- Will use TSF on them as well and rough them up with sandpaper before painting. Good idea, correct?
- Is there a recommended paint for the cabinets?
Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks!
I'm preparing to repaint my kitchen walls and ceiling. The previous owner had painted them both the same drab color and its got to go.
The paint is fairly glossy (not sure if its oil or latex based) and is probably at least 8 years old.
I've read up a bit on this and picked up a DryWall Sanding Screen to roughen up the surface and some Trisodium Phosphate for cleaning the walls.
A few questions came to mind that I thought I would post here:
- Do I clean the walls with the TSP first THEN roughen them up with the Drywall Screen. I'd assume if thats the process, I would wash the walls, rinse the walls, roughen the walls, then wipe them down again with a damp rag to get the dust off is that right?
- Do I have to use the TSP on all the walls (about 300sf) or just the areas near the oven/stove? Do I have to do the ceiling too?
- I should definitely prime before painting, right?
We're also repainting our cabinets. They were already painted white but need to be repainted. They are a mess and actually a bit warped but we can deal with it for a few more years before replacing.
- Will use TSF on them as well and rough them up with sandpaper before painting. Good idea, correct?
- Is there a recommended paint for the cabinets?
Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks!
#2
02-04-09, 06:20 PM
I Own my painting company and what we would do is .
If the walls are greasy or smoky you will need to wash areas. TSP is good but leave a film thats needs to be removed . There is A TSP that dose not need rinsing check your paint stores . To tell if your walls and ceiling are latex or oil , paint stores sell for a few dollars and pand with a solvent in it . You just wipe on an small area on wall or ceiling . If the paint comes off or gets sticky then it is latex . If noughthing comes off or sticky then it is oil. We use latex now and if there is oil paint on areas we apply a latex primer that bonds to oil . Once this is applied whait 24 hrs and then you canpaint with latex . Just a light sanding between coats is needed . You don't need to remove shine . If you want to paint with oil then , there is no need to prime (regardless if walls are latex or oil .) Oil paint can go over any one . ( Still need to sand lighty between coats.
As for cupboards , depends on the finsh off cupboards . If painted then you use same proceedures as above .
Just rember that they are usally sprayed in factory and look like car fisnish . Brushing and rolling will leave marks that look like orange peel .
Hope this helps
Ps Use a product on cupboards called melimine it has a nice shean and product is durable Close to same price as semigloss
Done-Rite Painting
If the walls are greasy or smoky you will need to wash areas. TSP is good but leave a film thats needs to be removed . There is A TSP that dose not need rinsing check your paint stores . To tell if your walls and ceiling are latex or oil , paint stores sell for a few dollars and pand with a solvent in it . You just wipe on an small area on wall or ceiling . If the paint comes off or gets sticky then it is latex . If noughthing comes off or sticky then it is oil. We use latex now and if there is oil paint on areas we apply a latex primer that bonds to oil . Once this is applied whait 24 hrs and then you canpaint with latex . Just a light sanding between coats is needed . You don't need to remove shine . If you want to paint with oil then , there is no need to prime (regardless if walls are latex or oil .) Oil paint can go over any one . ( Still need to sand lighty between coats.
As for cupboards , depends on the finsh off cupboards . If painted then you use same proceedures as above .
Just rember that they are usally sprayed in factory and look like car fisnish . Brushing and rolling will leave marks that look like orange peel .
Hope this helps
Ps Use a product on cupboards called melimine it has a nice shean and product is durable Close to same price as semigloss
Done-Rite Painting
#3
02-05-09, 05:36 AM
Here's some more info http://forum.doityourself.com/painti...latex-oil.html
I've always been partial to using a solvent based primer when switching from oil base enamel to latex. While I little pricey, I prefer to use a waterborne enamel [like SWP's proclassic waterborne] on cabinets and woodwork.
I've always been partial to using a solvent based primer when switching from oil base enamel to latex. While I little pricey, I prefer to use a waterborne enamel [like SWP's proclassic waterborne] on cabinets and woodwork.
#4
02-05-09, 07:39 AM
Thank you for the reply fellas.
The walls area tan color so its not so easy to see whats greasy and whats not. But it sounds like you're saying I should concentrate on the areas closest to the oven where grease is most likely to be found.
I will have to pick up a solvent at the store to test the walls. Though regardless of whether its oil or latex, I'm probably gonna prime it first b/c there are a lot of spots that need refinishing. There are a few spots in the plasterboard that are warbling or have some imperfections. I'm not sure if its from poor original construction or renovations or what but it drives me nuts. So I'm gonna have to smooth those ares out with JC and prime. So I may as well prime the rest. Won't take too long.
I just recently painted my bathroom (a second time after screwing it up and scraping the paint off down to the plasterboard.) I didnt do a light sand between coats... you have me a bit nervous!
The Cabinets where painted by the previous owners. So I guess I just need to clean, sand, prime, light sand, paint to get them looking good. Warped or not they will look a lot better afterwards.
Thanks for the replies. Really appreciate it. Will reply with my progress (and possibly more questions)
The walls area tan color so its not so easy to see whats greasy and whats not. But it sounds like you're saying I should concentrate on the areas closest to the oven where grease is most likely to be found.
I will have to pick up a solvent at the store to test the walls. Though regardless of whether its oil or latex, I'm probably gonna prime it first b/c there are a lot of spots that need refinishing. There are a few spots in the plasterboard that are warbling or have some imperfections. I'm not sure if its from poor original construction or renovations or what but it drives me nuts. So I'm gonna have to smooth those ares out with JC and prime. So I may as well prime the rest. Won't take too long.
I just recently painted my bathroom (a second time after screwing it up and scraping the paint off down to the plasterboard.) I didnt do a light sand between coats... you have me a bit nervous!
The Cabinets where painted by the previous owners. So I guess I just need to clean, sand, prime, light sand, paint to get them looking good. Warped or not they will look a lot better afterwards.
Thanks for the replies. Really appreciate it. Will reply with my progress (and possibly more questions)
