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Old 12-19-09, 05:09 PM
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Question Best Paint

Since I began on this quest last evening, I've read so many threads on Paint that my eyes hurt.

I get it that Behr is lousy, as is Glidden, Valspar, etc and dont even think about using paint from Sears.

I've been all over HD's site, can't find any paint that has not been mentioned negatively....

so, that is leaving Benjamin Moore, Sherwin Williams, and..... ?

I'm thinking SW is way out of my price range as i saw something about $52 a gallon... i'm not willing to spend that no matter how good it is.

I did find a semi-local J.C. Licht, but they are closed on Sundays. BM can be found at some local hardware stores in my area... should I avoid those too??

I"m just tired of reading all the negativity and would like someone to just say... get this, it's the best, i guess.

I did find an on line video of repairing drywall seams in a ceiling... i think i can do that pretty easily with the right supplies.

so, primer and white ceiling paint... that is where i need to start.

any input?

Thanks in Advance...

Terese
 
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Old 12-19-09, 07:54 PM
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Well, I'm sure you've heard the saying "opinions are like *******s, everyone has one." SW or BM are good products, either will do.

JMHAHO,

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Old 12-20-09, 03:18 AM
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I've used a lot of SWP over the years and some BM along with other brands. Most every [if not all] paint manufactures have several different lines [quality] of paint. Both BM and SWP have a cheap line of paint that isn't any better than what you'll find at a big box. Glidden has some quality coatings but they've really hurt their reputation by selling their cheapest paint at the big box stores. Best I can remember, I've never used any J.C. Licht paint.

The biggest problems associated with using cheap paint is coverage and wear. Wear is pretty much a non issue on ceilings. Coverage can usually be remedied with an extra coat of paint but if you have to buy more paint - then is the paint still cheaper?

If you buy from your local paint store - mid line or better should give good results. If you purchase your paint from a paint dept - get the best they have.
 
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I've never used any J.C. Licht paint.
Thanks for your reply Mark...

and Licht carries BM. I dont think i have a very local SW store.... i'd have to drive a lot farther to find it.

I'm thinking for today.. i'll just deal with the ceiling - then take it from there.
 
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Old 12-20-09, 07:03 PM
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If you have any Ace Hardware stores nearby, their paint is a great value. Pretty good quality for mid $20's per gallon.
 
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Old 12-22-09, 09:52 PM
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just a quick update...

I ended up at an Ace hardware today... the other one 'Do it best' only had their brand and valspar, which i'd only read horrid remarks on...

so, I knew Ace carried Benjamin Moore. I was thinking of that Natura paint... but YIKES $50 a gallon. the other AUra was $56... so i looked around...

settled on Ace Sensations, Premium Matte Flat Latex Enamel.

Very pleased with the paint. actually went on nicely with one coat.

I'm about 90% done and the ceiling looks great too. Didnt think it would take me 3 days, but with all the 'down time' while things are drying....

Next is the Master Bath... the flaking paint is even worse in there.
 
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Old 12-23-09, 11:37 AM
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I always use BM. My in-laws painted their lake place with Ace paint and it seemed to work pretty well, so it's paint I'd be willing to consider.

The reason the paint in the master bath is flaking should be addressed or you'll likely have new paint flaking when you're done.
 
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Old 12-23-09, 11:47 AM
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Ace makes their own paint,it is not rebranded or manufactured by some other company.I've been to the plant and through several seminars.I can tell you that there is a complete laboratory and test facility and that a lot of time and research goes into the product to bring it to national brand quality levels.

Most Ace stores have at least a few personnel that have taken classes and have been to training seminars as Ace requires it.

Ace paints are a good choice and the stores can usually be a source for solid knowledge and advice.
 
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should be addressed or you'll likely have new paint flaking when you're done.
yes Mitch... that issue was in my other thread, about preparing the ceiling before painting... Mark was helping me with that.

so at least i know what i have to do... I"m not looking forward to it, as it will be a much bigger job... I really hate this shower stall.

But -- i can say.. I will definitely use Ace again. I'm already thinking about the main hallway. Kids and pets are a nightmare on my walls.
 
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Great choice with the Ace Sensations, it's held up for me in my family room with kids in the house..
 
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I know the feeling. We have recently decided to paint the inside of our house. I wanted to find a no VOC paint. I decided on Gidden because of the price. It actually did well in the coverage area. The only complaint I have with it is the lingering smell. It doesn't smell like fresh paint or it's not an awful smell, it just has an odor. Which I am not happy about because this was one the main reasons for buying a no VOC paint. 2 years ago we painted the bedrooms with ICI paint. That was a really good paint. Only had to use one coat and smell was minimal. The price was very reasonable. I think we are going back to using that paint.
 
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Old 12-28-09, 06:44 AM
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Glidden is an ICI product.

Choose paints based on reputation and price point as well as where it is retailed.Both ICI and Glidden brands as well as many others have multiple levels of quality and pricing often with similar sounding names.Also many national brand names will produce product for big box retail that is formulated to meet a price point,usually calculated to be below competition,not quality levels.

Most brands will carry paints ranging from low level cheapo to high level excellent quality.Pricing is often an indication of it's quality level.Do research online,but take sites like Consumer Reports with a grain of salt as their testing parameters and conditions don't always mimic real world.

Buying your paints at a retailer with knowledgeable sale help will add invaluable information and insure you buy a quality product.Using upper level tools and sundries also insures a quality job.Cheaper low level tools make even top level paint look bad.
 
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I would not use Behr in an exterior application, but for interior applications, I don't think it is necessary to buy $50/gallon product. I always use Behr for interior walls, ceiling, and trim and have never had a problem. And I have four little kids. We tend to change paint colors every few years and the added expense is unnecessary. Quality of the job is all in the surface prep and application.

Also, if you elect to buy SW, BM, etc., make sure you buy it on a contractor frined's account (you can pay cash so he doesn't get billed). They charge about 25% less than for walk-ins.
 
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Hi Terese:

I have used Behr paint (interior, exterior and stain) for the past five years in three different houses. I tried it because Consumer Reports rated it the highest and a "best buy". Last fall, my daughter used Behr's new paint that has the primer in it ($30 per gal)to change the color of her living room from a deep red to a light gray. It took two coats, but covered completely.

Sometimes I think paint manufacturers or their sales reps troll these forums to knock the less expensive brands. You'll never know until you try it yourself.

As for primer, I use a latex primer called KILZ2. Seems to do the job. An oil based primer seems to work better, but I hate the clean up.

I'm currently painting ceilings with the Glidden ceiling paint that goes on pink at first. Is it the best?? I don't know. I just hate paining ceilings and the initial pink color tends to prevent me missing spots.
 
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Sometimes I think paint manufacturers or their sales reps troll these forums to knock the less expensive brands.
No, at least not on this site - we moderators work hard to keep this from happening. The advice here comes from current or retired professional painters.
 
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The main issues between brands/lines of paint is quality. Often the cheaper paints don't apply or cover as well there more expensive counter part.

Usually a pro painter will get a better discount at the local paint store as opposed to a paint dept but that's only a small part of why we trade at the local paint store. If we could save money buying paint at a big box - I'm sure most of us would. Price per gallon is only a part of the equation. Good coverage and ease of application help us to get more done = higher profit. Consistent quality and accurate consistent tinting is big! A store that caters to pro painters usually has better qualified knowledgeable help which can also be of a big benefit to the diyer.

I've not used much Kilz2, mainly because it does a poor job of sealing stains but I've heard from multiple sources that it has had adhesion problems
 
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Old 01-11-10, 06:45 PM
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the initial pink color tends to prevent me missing spots.
thanks BigRed.

I was happy with the paint I had purchased.

Maybe one day I'll try the Behr with primer, just to give it a try.

I'm finding the Sears paint we used 5 yrs ago wasn't very good. I wont make that mistake again... plus all the Sears Hardware that were near me, are now gone and a much farther ride.

After completely the 2 ceilings that i did... I wish i would have gotten the primer tinted ... that way i'd have less 'misses'. There is one spot in my bath that is quite obvious... and I need to touch that up, as i completely missed that spot.

I was VERY happy with the ACE paint i bought.
 
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Hi,

I know this thread is old and I am going to ask anyway.

tcs1366 liked Ace Sensations paint so I went to their website but no Ace Sensations paint. I do see Ace Essence paints.

Any one have experience with these Ace Essence?

Thanks.
 
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Old 02-17-15, 04:55 AM
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It's been a long time since I've used any paint from Ace Hardware and never have used a lot of it but I don't remember any complaints with it. Hopefully some of the others will have more recent/pertinent info for you. What will you be painting?
 
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Five year old thread, it's certainly possible that line of paint is no longer made.
 
 

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