Walls are a mess! HELP!
#1
09-09-10, 11:11 AM
Walls are a mess! HELP!
I have a big ol' mess on my hands... much of which I created 
I have been removing wallpaper and painting the walls throughout my entire house (layers upon layers). I'm pretty good now, but I need to go back and figure out a way to repair the first two rooms I did...when I really had no clue, at all.
In those rooms, I removed the paper then painted with an oil-based semi gloss, without doing any repair, washing, cleaning, etc. before putting the paint on. I couldn't tell you why I bought that oil based semi, other than I didn't know any better.
I'm now ready to fix it.
I have burnt orange ("Moroccan Sunset" rings a bell!) shiny walls. When the light is right, I can see my circular scoring tracks, gouges, divots, some drip patterns that I assume are the unwashed removal liquid, small rough areas where the drywall paper came off, and even remaining bits of wallpaper backing...all beneath the shiny paint.
Where on earth do I start to bring this back?? Can I prime the whole thing with a bonding primer for slick surfaces so that I have a clean slate, then repair the walls as needed, then prime, then paint? If there's an acceptable way to do it without having to sand the entire shiny room first, that would be my preference (because it's a large room with cathedral ceilings, and sanding the whole thing would be a lot more challenging for me than priming the whole thing).
I had planned to hire someone to do this, but I'd like to give it a go myself if possible.
I have been removing wallpaper and painting the walls throughout my entire house (layers upon layers). I'm pretty good now, but I need to go back and figure out a way to repair the first two rooms I did...when I really had no clue, at all.
In those rooms, I removed the paper then painted with an oil-based semi gloss, without doing any repair, washing, cleaning, etc. before putting the paint on. I couldn't tell you why I bought that oil based semi, other than I didn't know any better.
I'm now ready to fix it.
I have burnt orange ("Moroccan Sunset" rings a bell!) shiny walls. When the light is right, I can see my circular scoring tracks, gouges, divots, some drip patterns that I assume are the unwashed removal liquid, small rough areas where the drywall paper came off, and even remaining bits of wallpaper backing...all beneath the shiny paint.
Where on earth do I start to bring this back?? Can I prime the whole thing with a bonding primer for slick surfaces so that I have a clean slate, then repair the walls as needed, then prime, then paint? If there's an acceptable way to do it without having to sand the entire shiny room first, that would be my preference (because it's a large room with cathedral ceilings, and sanding the whole thing would be a lot more challenging for me than priming the whole thing).
I had planned to hire someone to do this, but I'd like to give it a go myself if possible.
#2
09-09-10, 01:07 PM
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Mark should be along shortly to correct any mistakes I make but I can't see how your plan would be a problem - any adhesion issues with the glossy paint would be addressed by the primer and then priming over the repairs will ensure even paint appearance afterward. Keep in mind, the more glossy the paint, the more it will show imperfections in your wall, so more care needs to be taken if you plan on using semi gloss than if you were going to use flat paint.
By the way, welcome to the forums
By the way, welcome to the forums
#3
09-09-10, 01:20 PM
Great, thanks! Whew, I was sure someone would say I need to sand. I don't mind spot-sanding after the repair stage, but if I had to do the whole room, I think I'd just rip it all out and go with the open-concept-stud look.
And thanks for the welcome... nice place. I have no intention of using semi again. I'm an eggshell girl now.
And thanks for the welcome... nice place. I have no intention of using semi again. I'm an eggshell girl now.
#4
09-09-10, 02:14 PM
You should sand the semi-gloss paint before you prime it 
but just a scuff sanding, no need to get carried away
That way the oil base primer will be able to bond better to the enamel
If you have any areas that you know are going to need a lot of attention you might want to sand and/or scrape them first. After the primer is dry you need to skim over all the problem areas with joint compound [it sands easy but is dusty] If you don't have one, get a sanding pole. It will make sanding a lot easier and help you to sand the j/c evenly. I don't remember what they cost but they aren't expensive, even a sanding pole head that screws onto a roller pole will work fine.
After all the oil enamel has been primed, you can prime the repairs with latex primer and use a latex enamel for the finish. No need to use an oil base enamel on residential walls
but just a scuff sanding, no need to get carried away
That way the oil base primer will be able to bond better to the enamel
If you have any areas that you know are going to need a lot of attention you might want to sand and/or scrape them first. After the primer is dry you need to skim over all the problem areas with joint compound [it sands easy but is dusty] If you don't have one, get a sanding pole. It will make sanding a lot easier and help you to sand the j/c evenly. I don't remember what they cost but they aren't expensive, even a sanding pole head that screws onto a roller pole will work fine.
After all the oil enamel has been primed, you can prime the repairs with latex primer and use a latex enamel for the finish. No need to use an oil base enamel on residential walls
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09-09-10, 06:44 PM
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Make sure your walls have cured for at least 7 days after that alkyd paint you applied. For a pro job you need to scrape or sand down any high spots even if 1/16 inch. The whole surface. Like mark said a oil base primer. after 24 hours.....then a premixed bucket of joint compound almost skim coating the entire surface. Prime again with an acrylic primer. Look the walls over for any imperfections and repeat as needed before TWO finish coats of latex paint of your finish. This type of labor intensive work maybe suited for a pro. If your up to the intensive work you will be proud! I would say it would be worth investing in a vacuum assisted sanding/pickup kit at the big box store for a much needed dust control.
Like mark said a oil base primer. after 24 hours.....then a premixed bucket of joint compound almost skim coating the entire surface. Prime again with an acrylic primer. Look the walls over for any imperfections and repeat as needed before TWO finish coats of latex paint of your finish. This type of labor intensive work maybe suited for a pro. If your up to the intensive work you will be proud! I would say it would be worth investing in a vacuum assisted sanding/pickup kit at the big box store for a much needed dust control.
