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Old 11-28-10, 10:30 PM
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Question Whites!

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After working with a color consultant, I'm taking some great risks with colors. However we didn't go over the subject of "whites" as far as "molding, trim, doors, ceilings etc.

I wanted the crown molding in each room to be painted white as it already is the lightest possible white there is...so I chose a color named "snow white" (Benjamin Moore). Then there are the ceilings. I'm going to repaint the white-ish ceiling even though they seem to be in pretty good shape, but not quite as white as the modling...a more subtle white, and I'm having trouble picking out a color. I picked out a color "white MSW-2" as it just seems to be not as bright as the molding plus will have more of a flat finish while the molding will be semi-gloss.

Can anyone give me any feedback on what whites they worked with when it came to their ceilings in each room vs. the Molding/Trim?

I would appreciate it.
 
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Old 11-29-10, 04:52 AM
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The coloring of whites can vary between brands and even lines of paint within the same brand. I've not used enough BM coatings to be real familiar with their color selections.

The flat versus gloss usually gives enough difference to make the molding show nicely. If you want more contrast, I'd suggest painting the ceiling a lighter version of the wall paint. This can be done by either adding a little wall paint to the ceiling paint or having the paint store tint the ceiling paint with a fraction of the wall color formula. I've painted a lot of ceilings that were tinted 1/2 or 1/4 tint of the wall color.
 
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Old 11-29-10, 11:40 AM
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Ceiling a lighter version of the walls.....

Hi,
Thanks for the advice. All my ceiling are presently painted white, but they are not as bright as the molding. Either they are a different color white or the same color with a different finish (satin vs. semi-gloss).

Since I'm experimenting with so many new, bright colors, I guess the colorist suggested I continue to keep the ceilings white and even though they are in pretty good shape now, she said they will look "old" once I get the new colors up. So, she suggested the ceilings remain white...You're probably right though about the finish playing an important role in the contrast between the white ceilings and the molding.

I'm waiting to hear from the colorist (again)...to ask this question and finalize all the colors. Unfortunately she's "busy" right now and I'm not good at waiting!

Thank you for your input. To me, the idea of adding a little bit of color from the walls to the ceiling sounds interesting, but in most rooms, there will be an accent color and the rest of the walls for contrast, so I may as well stay consistent with all the ceilings/trim/doors to brighten up certain areas.
 
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Old 11-29-10, 01:50 PM
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If you use the same line of paint [say Regal for instance] for both the ceiling and the woodwork, the white will be the same shade of white however ceilings are normally painted with flat paint [some will use satin/eggshell] The woodwork is normally painted with a semi-gloss or gloss. The extra sheen will help the crown molding to stand out. Because of how it reflects light, a flatter paint might not seem as bright as the same color with a glossier finish.

Since your rooms will have an accent color/wall, I'd be leery of introducing another color on the ceiling. It sounds like it would be best to stick with white paint on your ceilings.
 
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Let me try and explain better~ I'd like all the woodwork/molding to be as white as possible as they seem now with a semi-gloss finish. In all the rooms (except the bathroom and the kitchen), the ceiling color will be flat, but I think even w/o gloss it will be a bit bright for some of the rooms. As it is now, I'm sure the ceilings are a more warmer shade of white and coexist with the very white molding and they are painted flat.

In the bathroom and kitchen, I would like the ceilings to be a little brighter WITH both the ceilings and the walls to have a low-gloss finish except the woodwork which would have a higher gloss finish. The white I would use on the molding would be too bright for any of the other ceilings, I think even if it's painted a flat finish.
 
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Hi,
This is what I'm planning to do. The colorist I've spoken to said it would be find. All of the molding/trim will be painted a BM color "Snow White". It seems like the whitest, like the color that they are presently painted with a semi-gloss finish.

As for the ceilings - there are only 2 rooms that I plan to paint the ceilings the same exact color as the walls in a flat finish. My bedroom where the walls are a very pale lavendar, I can't see white ceilings in this room, and it's pale enough to paint the ceiling with w/o lightening it to make it paler. Same with another room which I think will look real interesting with one flat color of the walls & ceilings. Then there are the other rooms (excluding the bathroom and kitchen).

They will be painted white as well, but I couldn't see them painted as bright of a white as I will be painting the molding/trim. Even if it's flat, I think a warmer white is needed. The colorist picked out a color white she uses often that is warmer than the color I picked out and really brings out the walls. The whites on my ceilings seem to be a totally different color than the white on my molding and I don't think it has much to do with the gloss finish.

It's the bathroom & kitchen ceilings that I wonder about. I want all the walls (and ceilings) to be finished with a satin finish and would probably use the "lighter" white for those ceilings to brighten those rooms up more (or will that be too bright?)

Anyway, whites are confusing!

The coloring of whites can vary between brands and even lines of paint within the same brand. I've not used enough BM coatings to be real familiar with their color selections.

The flat versus gloss usually gives enough difference to make the molding show nicely. If you want more contrast, I'd suggest painting the ceiling a lighter version of the wall paint. This can be done by either adding a little wall paint to the ceiling paint or having the paint store tint the ceiling paint with a fraction of the wall color formula. I've painted a lot of ceilings that were tinted 1/2 or 1/4 tint of the wall color.
 
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I'd suggest painting 1 room with the 2 different whites [ceiling and trim] and see how it looks. Sometimes applying the paint is the only way to tell for sure if you like the color combination.
 
 

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