Priming and painting new drywall
#1
02-03-14, 07:54 PM
Priming and painting new drywall
We just drywalled my daughter's basement ceiling, and need to prime and paint it with a light sand finish. She wants a flat ceiling white, with a light/fine sand finish.
1) What primer is best for new drywall?
2) Should the sand finish be in the primer or paint?
3) Is there a paint with a light sand finish that I can roll on?
Thanks.
1) What primer is best for new drywall?
2) Should the sand finish be in the primer or paint?
3) Is there a paint with a light sand finish that I can roll on?
Thanks.
#2
02-04-14, 03:49 AM
#1 - most any latex primer would do ok. A PVA primer would be a bottom line primer, since I mostly trade at SWP, I'd use their ProMar wall primer.
#2 - you want to apply the primer without the sand finish additive! that way you have sealed drywall which will make it easier to apply the sand texture paint evenly.
#3 - while there are texture paints available I don't think any of them come with a sand finish. I've always used a package of the sand finish texture mixed in with the paint. If you are slow you might need to remix it as you go. You can roll paint with the sand finish added. You do need to keep a wet edge and work at applying the paint evenly.
Don't forget to sweep off the sanding dust before you prime
#2 - you want to apply the primer without the sand finish additive! that way you have sealed drywall which will make it easier to apply the sand texture paint evenly.
#3 - while there are texture paints available I don't think any of them come with a sand finish. I've always used a package of the sand finish texture mixed in with the paint. If you are slow you might need to remix it as you go. You can roll paint with the sand finish added. You do need to keep a wet edge and work at applying the paint evenly.
Don't forget to sweep off the sanding dust before you prime
#3
02-04-14, 10:40 AM
Thanks. I was told that certain primers or primer/sealers work best with a flat paint. Since we will use a flat ceiling white paint, which specific primer do you recommend? Someone recommended Zinseer 123.
I was also told using the sand paint is difficult to get it to go on and look good. Is that true? I thought we should use it to match the walls, which have sand paint on them.
I was also told using the sand paint is difficult to get it to go on and look good. Is that true? I thought we should use it to match the walls, which have sand paint on them.
#4
02-04-14, 12:50 PM
The 123 primer would be fine. Flat paints are more forgiving with the primer than enamels. Most any primer will work well under flat latex paint but failure to use the right primer under enamels usually results in the need for an extra coat. The quality of the primer under flat latex will play a small part in how washable the paint will be ........ but I don't see anyone washing the ceilings
#5
02-04-14, 03:08 PM
Thanks Mark. You seem to be the only one that answers my posts.
The paint guy at Home Depot recommended the "Behr" Premium Plus Primer and Sealer. Is this a good choice? They don't have the Zinser 123.
The paint guy at Home Depot recommended the "Behr" Premium Plus Primer and Sealer. Is this a good choice? They don't have the Zinser 123.
#6
02-05-14, 03:17 AM
I rarely buy coatings at the big box stores so I'm not very familiar with the coatings they sell. Compared to SWP and BM, Behr doesn't have a great reputation. The biggest issue with big box paint depts is they tend to stock their coatings based more on low price than quality. That said, the Behr primer might be ok, I just can't say for sure.
I forgot about that earlier 
all texture paints most be applied evenly and are less forgiving than regular paint. The main thing is to not try and stretch the paint on your roller and keep a wet edge. You don't have to have the same texture [or any texture] on the walls and ceilings. I've painted 100's of houses that had different textures on the wall versus ceiling or texture on one and not the other. IMO it looks best if there is uniformity throughout the house but there aren't any rules ..... and rules are made to be broken 
I was also told using the sand paint is difficult to get it to go on and look good. Is that true?
all texture paints most be applied evenly and are less forgiving than regular paint. The main thing is to not try and stretch the paint on your roller and keep a wet edge. You don't have to have the same texture [or any texture] on the walls and ceilings. I've painted 100's of houses that had different textures on the wall versus ceiling or texture on one and not the other. IMO it looks best if there is uniformity throughout the house but there aren't any rules ..... and rules are made to be broken 
#7
02-07-14, 09:32 PM
Do you guys recommend I give the new drywall 2 coats of primer? I read that I should prime the fresh mud first, then when it dries, prime the whole ceiling. Thanks.
#8
02-08-14, 04:29 AM
I rarely ever see a need for a 2nd coat of primer. As long as it is all coated, it should be sufficiently primed. I'd sweep off all the sanding dust and prime the entire ceiling and switch to paint when dry
