Do I need to use primer first?


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Old 08-15-15, 05:03 PM
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Lightbulb Do I need to use primer first?

I am doing my garage right now, just wondering if I should do the extra primer step on a finished drywall and concrete blocks before painting? or would that just be a waste with primer + paint in one?



paint i will be using: Valspar Duramax Paint

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Old 08-15-15, 05:21 PM
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What's on the wall now?
Looks like a mold issue from the picture from all the black on the wall.
What's up with all the paint on the floor? Going to be near impossable to to get that off that brick floor.
Prevention is the key.
 
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Old 08-15-15, 05:33 PM
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Joe, that's not the floor. The pic is 90 degrees off. I don't know how to fix that and no one will explain it to me...lol.

Azn...if there is already some sort of primer or paint on the sheetrock, then you could just paint over. If that is just mud and tape, then you should prime. As Joe said, if that's mold or mildew in the dark areas, you need to address that first. If it's just dirt, a simple damp wipedown and let dry should suffice. You definitely need to prime the block. I'd suggest a "block fill" primer, it will help to smooth the surface. You may need to go to a real paint store for that.

Don't buy all the hype about paint and primer in one. Might be ok for a prior finished wall, but not as an initial coating.
 
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Old 08-15-15, 05:34 PM
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no mold issues, just compound on the wall right now, updated picture below

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Old 08-15-15, 05:39 PM
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Much more helpful at that angle. Yes, my prior advice stands and now that I see the ceiling, that needs a lot of work if you want it to look nice.

That's a terrible mud job on the seam. It needs to be sanded and feathered out more.

I'm also wondering a bit about the reddish stains on the block. Is this garage below grade?
 
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Old 08-15-15, 06:43 PM
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The pic is 90 degrees off. I don't know how to fix that and no one will explain it to me...lol.
For those who don't know, there is an add-on called Image Zoom 0.6.3.1. It will rotate images that others have trouble sending in the correct orientation. It's available for FF. I assume it or similar is available for other browsers.
 
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Old 08-15-15, 06:46 PM
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Vic, I suspect it's just the pic. The block does not seem to have any effervescence or moisture coming out of it. Just your typical Block-Tite should suffice.
 
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Old 08-15-15, 08:45 PM
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The house is 3 stories, garage is the 1st level. I bought the house last year, it seems to be some kind of clay, dirt. Doesnt appear to be any water leaking.

this is my 2nd time compounding a ceiling..now i can understand why people have textured ceiling, it takes so long to make it smooth. Someone did a poor job prior taping the seam , now its bubbling out...and im going to need like 3-4 coat of compound.

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Any bubbled tape needs to be cut out and redone. Just adding mud over top of bubbled tape will lead to frustration and eventual need to cut it out and start over. Once all the mud work is done and sanded don't forget to sweep off the dust.

All raw substrates need to be primed first! You can use most any latex primer on the drywall. The block needs block fill or drylock for a primer. Failure to do so will result in the paint just sucking into the block causing you to need too many coats and a substandard job to boot.
 
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As said, you're nowhere near ready for primer and paint. Keep in mind that paint usually makes imperfections in the wall or ceiling MORE obvious, not less so.

I don't use all-in-one products, I use separate primers and paints.
 
 

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