Induction Cleaning

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Old 05-30-03, 01:51 PM
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Question Induction Cleaning

How important is induction cleaning on my 96 Sebring? Linmk below describes what i mean. Thanks

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Old 05-30-03, 03:31 PM
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Personal opinion?

Revenue enhancement for the garage. Save your money and use it to make sure you do regular oil changes and transmission services.

My wife's '95 Camry has 150+k miles and my Chevy 350-powered wrecker has almost 350,000. Neither has ever had any such cleaning, and that includes the profitable fuel injection/injector system cleaning being sold in lots of places.

If it ain't broke, leave it alone.

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Old 05-30-03, 04:02 PM
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Agreed. Or you can mail me the 80 bucks, and I'll put it toward maintenance parts which will keep the car running well a helluva lot longer than that service will .

Unnecessary expense. Follow the OEM maintenance schedule in the owner's book/glovebox pamphlet and you'll be fine.
 
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Old 05-30-03, 04:45 PM
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Air induction cleaning is a three step system if they do a good job. The first step is an aerosol throttle body cleaner they spray into your throttle body. STP and several other companies make their versions of the stuff and you can pick it up at autozone. The second step is the only step that requires special tools, if you would like to call it that. They simply pour a special alcohol mix into a bottle, then run a hose from the bottle to any vacuum line that leads directly to the intake manifold. This hose has a valve on in to control the amount of alcohol being sucked into the engine. The alcohol gets to the combustion chamber and burns so hot that it basically incinerates the carbon built up in the combustion chamber. The third step is a simple fuel injector head cleaner additive that they pour into your gas tank. Once again, STP and many other companies make this stuff. The only thing you can't do yourself is the second step. I was never able to figure out exactly what was in it, and i know for a fact that no one makes it for retail sale, because of the "special" metal bottle with a hose attached to it. If you've got extra money to spend, it'll help your gas mileage a bit, and depending on your car's condition, it can sometimes smooth out a rough idle, and give you a little more oomph when you leave stop lights. The whole point behind the cleaning is to get the car running like it was new. Not better than new. Just new.
 
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Old 05-31-03, 07:01 AM
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Nah, marketing hype and fallacy. The problems you describe are elsewhere in 95% of the cases. No goop in a can is going to fix that.

Talk to just about any professional, they'll tell you all the same---no fix in a can. If there were such "magic", the dealerships would recommend you have such service done so they can make more money in the service department.

I've never cleaned the intakes of my cars. The key is solid maintenance and using good quality parts/fuels. That will keep your vehicle running its best longest at lowest costs.

Spend your money elsewhere.
 
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Old 05-31-03, 03:02 PM
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My . cents... We have a machine called a MotorVac. It's designed to clean fuel injection systems. it's a 2 part system/service.. We hook the machine into the fuel system, on both the pressure and return side, and run the solution though the fuel rails. At the same time, we clean the throttle body with a canister of the same solution..After doing this, and running the machine for appoximately 15 minutes, we then actually run the car on the solution from the machine. This is done for approximaltey 30 minutes.
I have used many of the different cleaning "systems" over the years, and have not been impressed with any of them until this little "jewel". I have seen on scanner/scope minor drivability problems taken car of with this.. You can see "lazy O2 sensors begin to read properly, spark paterns get sharper, after this machine does it's job... So it is possible to get posative results from cleaning fuel injector systems.

But I also agree that proper routine maintenance, over the long run is the best bet... Oil changes, air filter replacement, PCV valve replacement ect...
 
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Old 06-01-03, 12:46 AM
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I agree with spending the money elsewhere. I said before that fuel injection cleaning can get you slightly better gas mileage and improve performance, but that is in very select cases. i would say that 90 to 95 percent of the time, no difference is noticed in the vehicle. And 99 to 99.9 percent of the time, the money would have been better spend elsewhere under the hood. Like everyone else says, there is no fix in a bottle, and there is no substitute for routine maintanence.
 
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Old 06-01-03, 05:38 AM
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goodyrl buy a can of gumout carb cleaner and a can of fuel system cleaner.Spray the carb cleaner in the throttle body dump the cleaner in the tank,your done under 10 bucks.Same job they are doing.Hope this answers your question instead of adding to the debate over if it's needed or not.Spend a couple bucks and feel better.
 
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