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Old 06-05-03, 07:05 PM
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Hey, Joe Cool, remember my brother's Sable 3.8 that I had to wrestle with last year over a coolant leak at the timing cover [same one that got tranny overhauled @ about 40k miles]?

Take a guess what it needs now.
 
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Old 06-05-03, 07:56 PM
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A new owner?
LOL
Sorry, just couldn't resist!
(Don't beat me up, I will admit to owning a Pinto many years back!)
 
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Old 06-05-03, 09:45 PM
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I'm not Joe, but I'll guess that it needs either a)head gaskets or b) a new bottom end. Gotta love the 3.8s. Job security for mechanics!
 
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Old 06-06-03, 03:34 AM
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Aye....it either lunched the tranny or blew the head gasket.

It MAY be worth repairing depending on condition.

Thank goodness for my old rear drive GM cars. Everyone should own one . LOL
 
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Old 06-06-03, 04:38 AM
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Already had the standard tranny failure, so must be time for blown head gasket. Got the call from my sister-in-law last night; classic symptoms. Fortunately she only drove it about 2 blocks after it started to sputter and the temp go up. I like fish's suggestion, but unfortunately it has sentimental value for my Mom - was my Dad's last car. S-I-L suggested maybe going back to where it's sitting (service station in a seedy area) and leaving the keys on the hood. Unfortunately I doubt there's any car thieves stupid enough to steal a Sable/Taurus. Been keeping my fingers crossed about the head gaskets ever since having to go 12 rounds with the timing cover gasket last year. I wish the rest of the car was trashed, but it's not in bad shape; only about 60k miles on it. A few minor annoyances as you would expect of a 10 yr old car, but body and interior are in decent shape. Probably going to have to drag it down here this weekend (200 mile round trip in the wrecker, WOO-HOO]. No way it's worth spending $$$ for someone else to do the job.

For you guys who've done one of these; anything special I should watch for to bite me in the ### or any particular phase of the operation that is a real serious PITA? Already know about new head bolts and will be visiting my favorite garage to get Alldata printout.
 
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Old 06-06-03, 05:50 AM
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Change the water pump. Have the heads checked by a good machine shop. Use quality gaskets such as Felpro.

It's a fairly involved job, will probably take you a couple of weekends to accomplish. Having moral support from friends is always a help of course.

I can get you the Alldata printouts if you give me a fax # and don't have access to them.
 
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Old 06-06-03, 10:32 AM
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Got alldata sources, thanks joe. Water pump is year old with about 8k miles on it; changed it last year while fixing the timing cover leak.
 
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Old 06-06-03, 01:04 PM
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You may wish to change the timing chain and gear set on this one while you have it apart. You're pretty close.

I actually have an earlier 3.8 timing set for Fords NEW in the box, but I don't think it fits your vehicle, it's for 82 to 87 3.8's.
 
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