Noise While Turning

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Old 07-04-03, 06:26 PM
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Question Noise While Turning

I have a 93 Dodge Shadow 140,000 miles. Less than a month ago I had replaced all ball joints, replaced drive side axel, did both front dic brake pads and rotors, new calipers, rear brake shoes and drums. I have also brought my car to a transmission specialist just to see if my tranny was bad. Tranny scored an A+. My question is this, everytime I drive my car when I make a left turn, and only a left turn, my car vibrates and make a rumble type of noise coming from the frontend, right side I believe. I was wondering what part the noise and vibration may be coming from. The passenger side axel? All 4 tires have only 7,000 miles on them with normal wear and all inflated to 35 psi. Please help me with what may be my problem.
 
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Old 07-04-03, 06:42 PM
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with that many miles, you should have changed both front axles.
Would have only been a few bucks more. I would speculate, the other side is giving you the problem now.
 
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Old 07-05-03, 03:58 AM
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Either that, or you might have bad wheel bearings.
 
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Old 07-11-03, 05:32 AM
lcam
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if it make cluck.. cluck.. cluck noise and steering wheel vibrates,
then it might be the left hand cv-joint is bad.
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Old 07-11-03, 06:33 AM
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Original poster: Has the problem been fixed?
 
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Old 07-22-03, 07:45 AM
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Problem Not Resolved

Well both ball joints and axels are brand new, and the car still makes a growling/grinding noise only when turning left. The new passenger side axel did lessen the noise a small bit though. I would like to know a way to find out for sure if it is the front wheel bearings or not. I mean the bearing/hub assembly comes as a unit and the are like $100. I don't want to waste the money if that doesn't solve the problem. Other than the groaning/grinding noise, the car drives great. Quick acceleration. Smooth gear shifts, great handling. There is a bit of drift when I let go of the steering wheel, could maybe I just need an alignment? Any suggestions?
 
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Old 07-22-03, 07:47 AM
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Have you taken off the rotors and brakes and felt for any play in the bearing? Start there.
 
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Old 07-22-03, 11:56 PM
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to properly check a wheel bearing, you have to take the caliper and rotor off, then the axle out! then you need to spin it by hand and listen closely, if it has any play at all, it's bad. if it spins 'very' freely, it could be bad. if it is notchy at all, it's bad. if it makes any noise at all, it's bad. basically you want a smooth, quiet hub, that spins with a little drag. you'll need to give it a good fast spin with your hand to do these tests. i also drive a 93 shadow(3.0L-5speed) and the wheel bearing was sooo bad, it sounded like a helicopter was about to land on it, i did the checks, found one barely bad, let it go for a year, still roared away, finally i was nagged into buying a new one and of course the price went up. when a wheel bearing is bad, it is always noisy, it just changes tone when making turns.

what you need to check is your 'front' motor mount. the one over the rear of the trans lets the weight of everything slide or float around, they do break sometimes, you can easily see that, there is a square inside the rubber and a longer skinny square with the bolt inside that, the outside square breaks out and the trans sits down like two inches. the 'side' mount is right next to the radiator, if that goes bad, the engine will move up and down from 1-8 inches as you go from drive to reverse to drive. finally, the 'front' mount, near the belts, i wish i had a picture because it would save me another thousand words. this is the one that locates the engine/trans, it has two plates welded in on either side as part of it, with 1/8th inch clearance between that and the center part, it used to probably have a rubber coating that would cushion the engine as it tried to slide right to left as you turned the car right and left.

if this noise just started after you had a timing belt installed, the mount wasn't reinstalled 'centered'. if not, it's just a worn out motor mount. if you take a big screwdriver or a crowbar and put it into the spaces in the mount i vaguely described above, you can move the engine side to side and see how one side is closer than the other to it's 'stops' this is what is probably bottoming out and causing the grinding, creaking noise you hear on left turns as the engine tries to go to the right.

let us know what you find out
 
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Old 07-23-03, 03:19 AM
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Try autolibrary.org for a picture of Mike's story (on the mounts).
 
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