1997 Taurus stuck in Park

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Old 11-13-03, 06:16 AM
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1997 Taurus stuck in Park

Not sure if I've given enough information. This is my first time posting on the forum.

My son can't get his 1997 Taurus out of park. The car starts right up but he is unable to shift from park to reverse or drive. He's a relatively new driver and claims he's never had any problem in the past few days shifting out of park. He's tried rocking the car & adjusting the steering coumn with no luck. Any advice for a nonmechanic would be most appreciated.

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Old 11-13-03, 09:08 AM
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Barring an actual transmission problem itself (which are pretty much universal on Taurus/Sable transmissions), my guess would be the safety switch that has to be engaged when you step on the brake pedal that "unlocks" the shifter itself. Going to have to wait for someone more knowledgable for details or other ideas.

Check here to see what you can find:

http://www.cybrrpartspro.com/Manual%...delLookup.html
 
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Old 11-13-03, 10:42 AM
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I will second that motion. You must step on the brake while shifting out of park.
 
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Old 11-13-03, 12:32 PM
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Stepping on the brake does not get the car out of the park position Afraid to try and force it too much or I would likely snap something. Any other ideas I can try. Thanks guys.
 
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Old 11-13-03, 12:55 PM
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With the key in run position, not running, roll up windows and gently push brake, you should here a relay energize. If not your safety switch is either bad or out of adjustment. Not much up on fords so thats about all I can suggest.
 
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Old 11-13-03, 01:51 PM
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Thanks to all that replied. It's great to know there are people willing to give some advice to a guy like me who has limited auto repair knowledge.

FYI: I've learned that if you turn the key in the ignition to just the first slot you can take it out of the park position. The problem isn't fixed but at least I can start the car in the neutral postion.

Thanks again to all of you.
 
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Old 11-13-03, 06:39 PM
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Check and see if you have any brake lights if you don't then that's the problem! Seen this often.

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Old 11-14-03, 02:58 PM
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Sounds like the brake/transmission shift interlock solenoid is going bad.Some cars you can replace them separately others require shifter replacement,not sure on your car.
 
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Old 11-14-03, 04:22 PM
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Brake lights out most common cause
 
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Old 11-14-03, 05:02 PM
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Are you putting in the run position and you can shift out of park as long as you don't start the car?I agree brake lights being out can cause problems but they would be out whether the engine was running or not.
 
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Old 11-14-03, 07:21 PM
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If you turn the key to the first detent and take the car out of park and then start the car in neutral it will work without brake lights.
Davo, Not tring to be smart but I have only worked for FORD - 23 years. You do see things that happen? And to bust your bubble I am a senior master with ford you also have to have all 8 ASE's plus L1. Don't forget to be NICE because sometimes there are others that can HELP!

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Old 11-14-03, 08:44 PM
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****Are you putting in the run position and you can shift out of park as long as you don't start the car?I agree brake lights being out can cause problems but they would be out whether the engine was running or not.*****



maybe i misread that post

can someone show me anyone not being nice or helpful?

we don't need to be missing any more moderators this week!!!
 
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Old 11-14-03, 11:59 PM
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I don't get it either Mike. In fact I had to scroll up to see if Davo said anything nasty prior, but I couldn't find anything Weird
 
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Old 11-15-03, 03:51 AM
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Wink

You guys didn't catch it? You have to read Davo's post BACKWARDS to catch the hidden meaning!

Speaking of backwards, Ford backwards - DROF - stands for "driver returning on foot".
 
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Old 11-15-03, 07:10 AM
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May be as simple as a bad fuse. Look in the owners manual for a picture of the fuse block. See what you can find. Then Check the fuses. SO, if it is a possible brake lite issue, check the light fuses.
 
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Old 11-15-03, 08:10 AM
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Howdy,

I am confused about this brake light 'thing'. Several folks seem to be saying that if the brake lights (or circuit) is not functioning, that this event alone, will prevent the shifter from moving out of park? Is that right? Or did I misunderstand the whole thing?

If that is right, I must admit, I find this to be quite interesting and would like to learn more.
 
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Old 11-15-03, 08:17 AM
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lugnut, I dunno, maybe the brake lights are hooked into the same circuit as the safety swx???? I am not up on fords wireing at all.
 
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Old 11-15-03, 08:38 AM
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That's correct, many of them share the brake light switch with the lock release so if the brake lights don't come on it's an indication that the switch may have a problem.
 
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Old 11-15-03, 08:46 AM
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Thanks desi, thats what I assumed but didnt know for fact.
 
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It was just a statement about the brake lights and a question to the original poster about switch position.
 
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Old 11-15-03, 10:21 AM
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Having read that explanation, I feel silly. Of course I now know what is going on, and I was just thrown off course in my thinking when everyone was talking about brake lights. Need more coffee Funny how the mind works, or not. Being focused on the park/lock and brake switch circuit, I did not make the mental connection between the brake lamps and the brake switch circuit.

Of course, the right thing to do now would be for me to go back and delete my stupid question, change my name and go live in the woods. But I know you guys would come find me, so I'll just sit here in the corner with the DIY Dunce hat and wait for the day I can give the hat to someone else. So where is it, who had the DIY dunce hat before me?
 
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Old 11-15-03, 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by Lugnut
Having read that explanation, I feel silly. Of course I now know what is going on, and I was just thrown off course in my thinking when everyone was talking about brake lights. Need more coffee Funny how the mind works, or not. Being focused on the park/lock and brake switch circuit, I did not make the mental connection between the brake lamps and the brake switch circuit.

Of course, the right thing to do now would be for me to go back and delete my stupid question, change my name and go live in the woods. But I know you guys would come find me, so I'll just sit here in the corner with the DIY Dunce hat and wait for the day I can give the hat to someone else. So where is it, who had the DIY dunce hat before me?
My last post was not directed to you sorry if you misunderstood.No dunce hats on DIY as all are here to learn something.What we need to know now is does Rockerbraves have enough info to start a diagnosis?
 
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Old 11-15-03, 09:44 PM
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I was confused there too. I thought they meant if the brake light bulbs burned out of if there was a broken wire AFTER the switch then that would prevent the shifter from moving. But now I get it, if the brake light switch isn't working, neither is the park lock switch since they are the same right
 
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Old 11-15-03, 10:18 PM
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if this clears anything up

on isuzus, there is a very similiar sounding 'park' interlock.

with the key off, park is locked by the key being out.

in the first accessory position, you can shift out of park with the shifter button, because the column is unlocked, but the solenoid isn't energized yet(the solenoid which prevents it from coming out of park)

turn the key to 'run', now the solenoid is energized, and park is 'locked' until you hit the brake pedal, which de-energizes the solenoid.

so, if the brake lights don't work, there won't be a signal to the solenoid to disengage it, and it will be stuck in park, until you turn the key off, but don't remove it.

which sounds just like what the original poster described.

and like 'darrell mccoy' originally said, with the windows up, and hitting the brakes, you can hear the shifter mechanism clicking pretty loud, this would be the solenoid working, if this one was actually working.

anyway, that's how it would work on an isuzu, this ford sounds somewhat similiar
 
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Old 11-16-03, 05:00 AM
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Thats, right if the brake lights dont work then the car won't come out of park because it blocks the shifter with the shift inter-lock solenoid. We have several tow in because of this? It's usually a brake light switch. I don't think that one bulb out will cause this. But also check the wire from the switch FORD sells the harness and switches daily. I think some of the later Taurus have a RECALL for the switch and wiring connector and harness. If you need this recall number let me know?
 
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