98 Prizm Brakes

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Old 12-01-03, 05:38 AM
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98 Prizm Brakes

Ive never done any disc brake work - I have a 98 Prizm with 75000 miles. There is a squeal in the front left - comes and goes. Can I do a straight 'remove and replace' brake job without having to replace fluid and/or make any kind of adjustments?

Followup - I took it to the local undercar specialist (i.e. national chain) He said turn the rotors and replace pads - He showed me everything - no 'scraping' on discs yet - the 'chirpers' just started to hit. The brake light is on - he says it's because the fluid is all down by the wheels - and by putting new pads on it will force fluid back up and turn the light off. Also said it takes 'quiet touch' pads - wow - I know I'm old but $80 per side!

So - now question is more defined - Remove and replace pads and get rotors turned - is this a diy job? i.e. no special tools and won't have to mess with fluid?
 

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Old 12-01-03, 07:19 AM
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If the rotors are not scored and there is no shudder when braking at high speeds you could get away pushing in the pistons and replacing the pads
 
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Old 12-01-03, 11:49 AM
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Just replacing the pads without turning the rotors is NOT the proper way to do it, but it can be done. You arent carrying alot of weight with this little car so you probably havent heated up the rotors to the point of some minor warping yet. $80.00 per side is about right. Thats about what we charge for the Quiet Stop pads. turning the rotors and R&R. We dont break it down to the "per side" point cause whos gonna do just one side??? Quiet Stop pads are made by Raybestos and they are Ceramic pads.
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Old 12-01-03, 12:20 PM
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I agree with Billy

You should give the new pads a nice clean and true surface to seat into.
 
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Thanks guys
 
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Old 12-01-03, 03:27 PM
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turning rotars

I go both ways with turning the disks if they are not warped why do it? I would just take some emery cloth and remove the glaze if any.
The way I see it if you turn them they get thinner and are more prone to quick heat build up. Not only that you shorten the service life. It just seems to me that every brake shop wants to turn drums or disks. Some times the drum might be in limits for a turn but after turn they are out so you are forced to get new ones.
 
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Old 12-01-03, 04:34 PM
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i agree, on customer's cars, we always resurface or replace (by measurment)

on my car---pads only, provided there is no pedal pulsation and no excessive rust buildup. the pads will be seated within a day or two.

either way, make sure the caliper and pad 'slides' are completely wire brushed and rust free and lubed with a proper lubricant, like 'never seize'
 
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Old 12-01-03, 07:39 PM
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In my experience..... Rotors (and drums) need to be turned mostly due to fade and normal warpage. I always turn rotors and drums on a brake job. I have had customers come in and say... "Those rotors dont look like they are bad, why do they need to be turned or replaced". I go strictly by the spec book and if its out they are getting replaced. I have had customer refuse to have a brake job done because I told then that they needed their rotors turned even though it doesnt change the price. Which makes no sense to me. I say if you want the crap job. go somewhere else. Im not gonna be liable for it. I dont care if you are paying $70 or $300 for the brake job, im gonna do the same thing to quality work to them all. I dont have comebacks when I do brakes. We actually advertise a $69.90 brake special. This is a brake pad change with the cheap organic pads. The rotors dont get turned, deglazed or anything. I wont do it. I refuse to do that kind of a shoddy job.
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