95 Escort Transmission ???

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Old 12-13-04, 09:31 AM
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95 Escort Transmission ???

OK........I just bought a 95 Escort LX 1.9L sedan from a state auction and it has 62K miles on it and looks in very good shape. While it starts/drives nice.....it appears to be starting off in 3rd gear (automatic w/overdrive) and does not feel like it ever shifts again. On the highway it appears to be not going up into overdrive. If I put the gear selector in LOW, she will definitely start off in low but when its time to move it into D, it feels like it jumps back up to 3rd again when I move it to D. I'm a home school gear head and have rebuilt engines but automatic diagnostic will be a little new. Whats some of the first things I can do to diagnose it?
 
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Old 12-13-04, 11:09 AM
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It sounds like your tranny is going into "limp mode", it is sensing trouble and so it defaults to 3rd gear. I would take it to an autozone and have the codes read (for free).
 
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Old 12-13-04, 11:36 AM
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Does the 95.........

have an OBD II plug or can autozone scan it if its OBD I?
 
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Old 12-13-04, 11:40 AM
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OBDI uses an OBDI scanner. Or some OBDI can just be read using a paperclip to jumper two pins.
 
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Research....

on looking at other sites for similar problems sounds like it could be the speed sensor. My check engine light is NOT on thou!
 
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Old 12-13-04, 01:28 PM
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Just FYI, your check-engine-light doesn't have to be on for there to be fault codes stored in its history.
 
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Sounds like the codes need checked no matter what way it needs to be done.When you shift the trans to low with the shifter you are in manual low not commanded low so you are most likely overiding shift solenoid operation.I'm not a Ford tech but if it was a Gm I would be looking for an electrical problem even a blown fuse or faulty ignition switch.Are there any other electrical problems with the car?
 
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Old 12-14-04, 08:27 AM
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Davo...........

No other apparent electrical problems with the car. Definitely the car is just sitting in 3rd gear..........when I put the shifter in L and then drive........she starts out in LOW and then when the RPM's get up......I have to move the shifter to D.......when I do its defintley 3rd gear as the RPMS drop down significantly........after that she shifts no more. Looked quick at a mitchells manual at the library last night.......shifting is definitley conrolled electrically and since there is NO SHIFTING..........thats sounds like where the trouble is!
I looked under the hood and could spot no "obviuos" loose connections!!
 
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Originally Posted by picklesnouts
have an OBD II plug or can autozone scan it if its OBD I?
It's not OBD II
Call your local AZ first and find out if they can read them
Or find a DIY/parts place that will read them

If you want to pull the codes yourself you will need a voltmeter
Or at least a jumper wire

You need to find the Self-Test Output (6-terminal) connecter and the Self-Test Input (1-term.) prolly near the firewall, drivers side, engine bay

Jump the top right term. of the STO (2nd from the left in the row of 2), to the STI (single)
You can count the dash Engine light flashes for the codes that way

With the voltmeter do the same but hook the - to the #4 on the STO (the 2nd from the left in the row of 4), and the + to the + on the battery and count the sweeps
 
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Slickshift..........

I'm new to Fords so bear with me. Called Auto Bone and if its not OBDII they cannot help. I am postive I am not OBD11. Near the DS firewall I did find a black cover connector that says I think "EEC" on the top and when you pop the cover, there are I think 4 open lugs......is that the box your referring to? Doing the jumper deal.........can I blow anything if done wrong? Also....do I do it with the ignition on? It feels to me this is a pure "electrical" trani issue. Is there any kind of "fuse" for the transmission electronics. Any of your help is very much appreciated!!!!!! I do have a volt meter as well. How and when do you start/stop counting the sweeps?
 
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Mmmmm... it should have 6 small terminals, 2 on top, 4 on bottom
And one terminal seperate

_____
/ - - \
l - - - - l l-l

It possibly says EEC Test or Self Test on it
You can't really blow anything but it's the top RH to the single
And - voltmeter to the 2nd in the bottom row,then VM + to + on battery

Hook it up first (engine should be warmed up but off-key off or out)
Turn key to ON but Don't Start It-know what I mean?
The sweeps will start and will repeat themselves
sweep, pause
sweep, sweep, bigger pause
= 12
etc.
They will end themselves
 
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Boy the "diagram" looks better in reply to thread
After submitting it takes out the spaces, sorry
Hope you get the idea
 
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Slickshift........if I do

the jumper idea........can I count the blinks of the check engine light as you stated earlier? Just do the jumper then turn ignition to on and watch the blinks? Sorry for the back and forth but so far your helping me TREMENDOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your diagram also a big help.....I am printing it out and will check it when I get out of work.
 
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Originally Posted by picklesnouts
the jumper idea........can I count the blinks of the check engine light as you stated earlier? Just do the jumper then turn ignition to on and watch the blinks?
Yup
That should work
 
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slickshift.......I followed

your procedure on the jumper..........turned the key to ON only...........the car kinda cycled the fan and a couple of other things and then sure enough the check engine light did the blinks. Based on the pauses in between and the looong pause to say its done I got a code of 116622!!! I watched it twice, turned off the key, then did it again to verify. Now...where can I find the decode log? MAN...........you are the best!
 
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The '95s have 3 numeral codes

116
Engine coolant out of test range
---you didn't let it warm up enough maybe?

and

622
Shift solenoid 2 circut failure
---that sounds like our boy

Good job

Maybe one of the tranny guys around here can help with that one
 
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Slickshift........i did not

let the car run at all.........would that make a difference? On the solenoid code............would that mean a particular one inside the trani.........and if so is it something a wrench slinger like me could do at home? Your help on this is awesome!!!!
 
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Old 12-14-04, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by picklesnouts
On the solenoid code............would that mean a particular one inside the trani.........and if so is it something a wrench slinger like me could do at home?
It would mean a particular solenoid circut failure yes, the #2 solenoid/circut
I don't know if it's a DIY job as I take all my transmission work to a specialist
Hopefully a more tranny savvy guy will chime in

And yes the engine should be warmed up for the KOEO test that you did
(Key On Engine Off test)
But in this case (transmission) probably doesn't matter
 
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Slickshift...I will

probably re-run the test tomorrow after warming up the car. I may also make a trip again to the local library to look in the mitchells manuals to see where these circuits are located and how I can test them for resistence. You have helped me learn extremely a lot.............my goal here is to fix the problem totally on my own as I am exploring doing some minor car fix/referb on the side to cars that I can resell.
 
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