Ignition radio noise worse with new cables
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Ignition radio noise worse with new cables
I am having trouble with ignition noise in my radios (both AM-FM and 2 way radio scanner).
I changed the plug wires (that were only 2 years old in the first place) and it mad it the noise WORSE! It is definitely my engine, as I can hear the noise (static) increase with engine RPM. This is 'static' NOT alternator whine!
There is suppose to be a "radio suppression cap" on the alternator that I was going to change out to try, but since it isn't 'whine' is this a waste of time/money?
There is suppose to be a ignition coil cap, but I can't find it. It isn't near the coil and have no idea where it is, if there is one.
I didn't change the rotor, but will. I haven't checked the antenna yet, but will.
This is a 89 Dodge Spirit w/ a 2.5L
Any ideas??
I changed the plug wires (that were only 2 years old in the first place) and it mad it the noise WORSE! It is definitely my engine, as I can hear the noise (static) increase with engine RPM. This is 'static' NOT alternator whine!
There is suppose to be a "radio suppression cap" on the alternator that I was going to change out to try, but since it isn't 'whine' is this a waste of time/money?
There is suppose to be a ignition coil cap, but I can't find it. It isn't near the coil and have no idea where it is, if there is one.
I didn't change the rotor, but will. I haven't checked the antenna yet, but will.
This is a 89 Dodge Spirit w/ a 2.5L
Any ideas??

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You don't say what you replaced the wires with, so I'll assume they are not OEM from the dealer
You may want to replace them with stock replacements, you should not get interference with OEM wires
Or get some Radio Suppresion wires from a reputable manufacturer
I have had good luck with Accel
I wouldn't be suprised if Mopar has some good Radio Supression wires too
You may want to replace them with stock replacements, you should not get interference with OEM wires
Or get some Radio Suppresion wires from a reputable manufacturer
I have had good luck with Accel
I wouldn't be suprised if Mopar has some good Radio Supression wires too
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I checked both antennas and both had less than 1.5 ohms between the whip and the center pin and the same from base to the shield of the connector.
Still doesn't account to changing the wires making it worse!
Still doesn't account to changing the wires making it worse!
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Yes they are. Again, the SAME cables as before!
Borg-Warner Select
SuperMag
Magnetic Suppression
Borg-Warner Select
SuperMag
Magnetic Suppression
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They aren't, but since when do you need "orginal" wires? That still doesn't answer why they are noiser than the older ones!
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Originally Posted by bigguy05641
I do not believe those are Original equipment wires.
You need ones that say MOPAR !
You need ones that say MOPAR !
Just because they are the same ones that were on there before does not mean they are OEM...or that they are not the problem
videobruce,
I can't tell you why some wires are noisier than others
And why some aftermarket wires work OK with some cars, and not with others
If you are chasing down a problem like yours, thats the thing to do
Go back to the factory wires
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I also pulled the plugs to check them. Could it be that just by disturbing them it made matters worse and it was just coincidence that I also changed the wires at the same time?
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Originally Posted by videobruce
I also pulled the plugs to check them. Could it be that just by disturbing them it made matters worse and it was just coincidence that I also changed the wires at the same time?
I don't think it could be plugs though
I'm really not familiar with the '80s Dodge stuff
Is this a 2.5L Turbo?
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All other things being the same, it would seem clear that the new wires are the problem, barring any spark plug issues. You changed the wires, then the static immediately got worse, right? Do you still have the older wires to reinstall to see if the radio noise improves to where it was?
Why the new ones are worse, there may be a quality defect, design change, or who knows, maybe they used to be made in America and are now made in China.
Whatever the case, they didn't come from the same lot as the older ones.
If the older set of wires was causing the radio noise, they couldn't have been all that great to begin with.
Why the new ones are worse, there may be a quality defect, design change, or who knows, maybe they used to be made in America and are now made in China.

If the older set of wires was causing the radio noise, they couldn't have been all that great to begin with.
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maybe they used to be made in America and are now made in China.

actually they are made in Mexico.
It could be you disturbed something and it was just coincidence about the wires
You changed the wires, then the static immediately got worse, right? Do you still have the older wires to reinstall to see if the radio noise improves to where it was?
I will change the rotor next and see, then the plugs.
I never heard of OEM (dealer) parts being BETTER than aftermarket when it comes to run of the mill stuff like this.
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Originally Posted by videobruce
I never heard of OEM (dealer) parts being BETTER than aftermarket when it comes to run of the mill stuff like this.
I noticed it hot rodding years ago
I first noticed it on Ford 302s that have the EEC IV computer
You know, you're hot rodding it up, so get the beefy racing wires, hey they must be better right?
Then spend the next few days trying to figure out why it runs like butt
Eventually I figured out that these engines hate aftermarket wires, even expensive ones
Me and many, many others
To be fair, a few people get them to work and don't have a problem
But many, many more have a prob.
It's simply easier to avoid the problem and go with Ford wires
(Though I know several, including me, who were able to run Accels)
I have since heard many theories as to why
In this case (the comp. controlled 302s) the best theory I heard was about EMFs and the EEC IV
But I digress (well, it was to illustrate a point

Except to say that sometimes, specially on the run-of-the-mill things, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, the factory parts are best
At the very least it eliminates that system from the suspect list when chasing a problem
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I never heard of OEM (dealer) parts being BETTER than aftermarket when it comes to run of the mill stuff like this.
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I replaced the ignition coil for kicks and giggles, but no difference.
Question; there seems to be a choice of either copper or aluminium cores. I know copper is a better conductor, but is it worth 2x the price?
Where would I see the difference, or is that just for performance vehicles?
Question; there seems to be a choice of either copper or aluminium cores. I know copper is a better conductor, but is it worth 2x the price?
Where would I see the difference, or is that just for performance vehicles?
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most older chrysler vehicles with the 2.5 had a noise supressor or capaciter bolted right next to the coil and the lead actually attached to one of the coil terminals if your model does not have this suggest seeing the dealer to see if they show one for your model.
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Just tring to cover everything. I will get the OEM wires.
No to that cap or filter across the input of the coil. Never there.
No to that cap or filter across the input of the coil. Never there.