95' Ford Escort: KEY WONT TURN!

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Old 05-21-05, 01:41 PM
Bubba Bob
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95' Ford Escort: KEY WONT TURN!

OK,

I got home today and the car would NOT turn off. THe steering wheel wont lock, and the key will NOT turn off. I had to disconnect the battery to stop it. THen, when i reconnect the bat, it wont start. It's like the car thinks its still in drive. BUT! IT wont move in park, so it IS in park.

WTH is wrong?

PS: I have NO money.

Thanks

95' Escort Auto Tranny w/ 120k miles.
 
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Old 05-22-05, 12:19 AM
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try some parts blaster. or maybe just a little 3 in 1 oil. parts blaster is bad for plastic. wiggle it. best idea though is to go to a junkyard and offer them 20 bucks and you'll take it out yourself.
 
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Old 05-22-05, 06:27 AM
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Good Morning Bubba Bob,

Anyone with the first name Bubba has got to be allright. I have a couple ideas for you. First of all, what has happened to your car is normal, or common place. After 10 years, the internal parts of you lock have worn out. You can try the parts blaster idea, and this will work for a while, but will not fix your lock. Since you have a ford, it is easier to get the lock out than on most vehicles. What position is the key in? Lock? off? Run? To remove the lock, it must be in the run position. Look on the underside of the lock. Do you see a little hole? (Look directly at the lock, straight on, it will be at the 7 O'clock position, and will be going straight toward the side of the lock. sort of like the divisions on a dart board). With the key in the run position, use an awl, or an ice pick, push it in to release the retainer, and slide the lock out of the housing.

Here's the tricky part, and could cause a blown fuse. Use a small flat blade screwdriver, and turn the inside linkage to the off position being VERY carefull not to touch the sides of the housing, or anything else but the notch where the end of the lock goes. This has to be done, or your battery will discharge.
It's easy to do, just be steady.

Once that is out, then go to your local junk yard and get that switch from another car. Just remember it too will be old, and probably will have the same thing happen fairly soon.

The best solution is to buy a new switch from an auto parts store. SAVE the little tag that comes with the new lock. That is your key code, and you may find a neeed for it later, if you should ever lose your key.

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Old 05-22-05, 07:54 AM
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cuedude,
Not to be negative or anything, but are you sure those are instructions for an Escort?
Is that for an airbag equipped vehicle or something?
I'm really not trying to slam, it's just that when I did this a few months ago the procedure was a little more involved
The steering wheel had to come off* and there were screws that are difficult to access w/o removing, or lat least loosening, part of the dash

It's still a great DIY project, and I'd suggest Bubba Bob DIY for sure

*A steering wheel puller was used but not needed
 
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Old 05-22-05, 08:04 AM
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Their are 4 holes around the lock. Ive hammered into all of them with no luck

Umm, what now?

Thanks

EDIT:

How did you get the wheel off? I took the bolt in the center off, but it wont budge.
 
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Old 05-22-05, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba Bob
How did you get the wheel off? I took the bolt in the center off, but it wont budge.
Then you may need the puller
I used one but it popped off so easily I probably didn't need it
Maybe yours is a little tighter and needs it
Many DIY auto parts places will lend you the tool
 
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Old 05-22-05, 08:57 AM
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Slickshift and Bubba

OK, Here's what I know from past experience. If the steering column is square, the lower cover must be removed to access the retainer. The steering wheel does not have to be removed on a ford. If the shroud is round, the access hole is towards the back of the lock, toward the forward side of the column. If looking from the key hole of the lock, it will be at the 7 O'Clock position on either one. Hope this helps clear up the confussion, and thanks slickshift for making me explain a bit further. I get these mental pictures, and sometimes I fail to fully discribe something.

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Old 05-22-05, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba Bob
Their are 4 holes around the lock. Ive hammered into all of them with no luck

Umm, what now?
Disconnect the battery
You've got the horn off and it wires and the steering wheel bolt
you've gotta get that wheel off
You may be able to tap it off or you may need a puller
Just don't hammer on the shaft, that's light tapping (maybe...my locksmith friend says that's how he does it)

Remove the upper and lower colum covers

Remove the multi-function switch
Disconnect it's harness' (I think 3 of them) and remove the screws that hold the switch on

Disconnect the ignition switch electrical connector
And at this point I believe there was the bolts holding the switch on that I had trouble getting to
You may need to looosen the dash, or maybe yours won't be as bad
Then the darn thing comes right off
I never did the poke the hole and key position thing
It just bolts on
 
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Old 05-22-05, 09:07 AM
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Whups you must have replied while I was typing
I posted how I did it
 
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Old 05-24-05, 07:02 PM
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Ok, the verdict is in. A washer in the ignition was worn and needed replacing. I went ahead and called a locksmith.

Thanks for the help
 
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