93 ‘standard’ Ford Ranger - clutch? problems

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Old 05-02-06, 06:09 AM
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93 ‘standard’ Ford Ranger - clutch? problems

This problem just started a few day‘s ago and I‘m realy not sure what‘s causing the trouble although I believe it's the clutch. Anyway, I noticed as I shifted into second gear, that it was a little hard, then soon after, it started grinding (only in second at first). Yesterday, I put it in reverse and backed up a few feet and the tires locked up, so I pumped the clutch peddle and was able to back up just enough to get out of the parking space. I drove my truck home and noticed that 3rd gear started grinding.

I can pump the clutch peddle and get it to shift normally for a short period of time and I checked the clutch fluid and added a little although it looked like it was topped off.

Anyone know exactly what the problem is and what I can do about it? could it have gotten air in the line somehow?

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Old 05-02-06, 07:49 AM
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Usually noise is worm or damaged gears/bearings

If it's in one gear or just neutral (etc) that can help pinpoint the problem, but it usually needs a tranny specialist to fix

However, the fact that you can pump it and get it to work....maybe there is a leak in the line

Does it operate OK w/no noise for a little bit after pumping it up?
 
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Since you can pump the clutch pedal and get the clutch to work is sounds like you may have a hydraulic seal beginning to fail in the clutch master cylinder or clutch actuator. If the fluid level was OK it sounds like you probably don't have an external leak.
 
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Originally Posted by slickshift
Usually noise is worm or damaged gears/bearings

If it's in one gear or just neutral (etc) that can help pinpoint the problem, but it usually needs a tranny specialist to fix

However, the fact that you can pump it and get it to work....maybe there is a leak in the line

Does it operate OK w/no noise for a little bit after pumping it up?
There's no noise really besides the initial grinding while shifting into the gear. Once in gear, there in no noise whatsoever. No noise in neutral or any gear otherwise. When I pump the clutch, most of the time I can get it to shift with no noise or resistance and always, once in gear, it operates as normal and with zero noise.
 
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Originally Posted by SLJ2137694
Since you can pump the clutch pedal and get the clutch to work is sounds like you may have a hydraulic seal beginning to fail in the clutch master cylinder or clutch actuator. If the fluid level was OK it sounds like you probably don't have an external leak.
I thought it was a fluid leak or maybe some air got into the line somehow, but when I checked the level, it was fine and I dont know how air could have gotten in it.. Can there be an ‘internal leak‘ then?
 
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I would try a master cylinder first.Before you install it,bench bleed it first.Put some fluid in it and try to get a good firm "pedal".These things can be a booger to bleed.Hopefully,your slave cylinder is still ok.If not,the tranny has to come out.This is your cheapest solution at this point.
 
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Wet clutches are not my thing
An internal leak does sound feasible
I wouldn't replace it w/o confirming the part is faulty though
 
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I went ahead and took it to this transmission shop late yesterday ( a friend of a friend). I’m supposed to get a call this morning with a diagnosis etc... I’ve rebuilt master cylinders in the past., but just don’t have the time right now to fool with it, hopefully that‘s all it is. Thanks for the advice.
 
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The mechanic said the transmission was shot and will cost mega bucks to rebuild so I‘m taking it to another shop for a second opinion.
 
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Sorry to hear that
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....I‘m taking it to another shop for a second opinion.
Always a good idea
 
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Guys,

I'm from out of the past from the days of mechanically operated clutches/pressure plates...but doesn't his descriptions sound just like (reread his posts) he isn't getting full separation between his clutch and pressure plate and this is causing him to literally shift while it is still (partially)in gear? What he describes sure sounds like that and sounds like it has nothing to do with the tranny per se, or gears.

What you all say?

Fade,

You aren't just off the interstate somewhere's in New Jersey are ya?..and visiting Guido Cisclione's tranny garage are ya?
 
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check the gear oil level, if thats not it then you might need to adjust your clutch, i think that you may only need to adjust it im almost 100% sure thats what it is mine did the same thing, but you still need to check the gear oil level.
 
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Originally Posted by DaVeBoy
Guys,

I'm from out of the past from the days of mechanically operated clutches/pressure plates...but doesn't his descriptions sound just like (reread his posts) he isn't getting full separation between his clutch and pressure plate and this is causing him to literally shift while it is still (partially)in gear? What he describes sure sounds like that and sounds like it has nothing to do with the tranny per se, or gears.

What you all say?

Fade,

You aren't just off the interstate somewhere's in New Jersey are ya?..and visiting Guido Cisclione's tranny garage are ya?
I agree, I think I would get another opinion. Sure sounds like a clutch issue to me.
 
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Originally Posted by DaVeBoy
...mechanically operated clutches/pressure plates... isn't getting full separation between ... clutch and pressure plate ... causing ... shift while it is still (partially)in gear?
If it were a mechanical clutch, from the description I'd say look at the clutch cable, clutch cable adjuster/adjustment, or self adjusting pawl for starters
 
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Hydraulic clutch, and the way it's set up it's really REALLY tough to bleed. I'd disconnect the linkage from under the dash and remove the master cyl from the firewall........ turn the m/c till the line is HIGHER than the actuator shaft and THEN Vacula the slave cyl.........93 should have an internal (inside the bellhousing) slave cyl.
 
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This may sound silly, but....
I bought an 86 ranger and the clutch felt spongy and barely released. I checked the fluid and found that the previous owner had topped it up. It looked full to me, but somethimg was not right. It turned out that the rubber membrane in the cap had fallen down and the previous owner had topped it up instead of the actual reservoir.

Something to think about. If this is the case, do not pour that fluid into the reservoir. Remove the membrane and dump it out, put it back into the cap and top the reservoir up with clean fluid from a sealed container.
 
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