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Old 10-30-06, 12:31 PM
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Range Rover

I have a Range Rover Country LBW. My mechanic says the bolts of the exhaust manifold are coming loose. He quoted me a price of between a few hundred and a few thousand dollars, depending on whether the bolts just need to be replace, new holes need to be drilled, or a whole new manifold needs to be installed.

I don't know him well enough to trust him completely.

Does this sound like a likely sitution? Also, he says he can't tell until he gets in the starts the job. Does that ring true? I'm not a mechanic in any sense of the word, so unless I get an outside opinion, I have no idea.
 
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Old 10-30-06, 12:51 PM
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Chris ...I previously had a Range Rover HSE and nothing on that thing was cheap. To me, it sounds like he's quoting you a big range b/c he's not sure what he's getting into just yet but to me, those prices sound accurate. If you want my opinion, sell that think and get a Toyota Land Cruiser. The Rovers just don't hold their value for what you put into them. I will never own another Range Rover unless I can afford one brand new and once the warranty is up, it's gone. I did absolutely love mine given all of it's flaws and service bills, though.

Do you not already have a trusted mechanic you use? I took mine to a few independant service guys here in San Diego and both were very good and only fixed what I told them to and their prices were expensive but not as much as the stealerships. Maybe ask around in your area to be sure the guy you are going to is trusted. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

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Old 10-30-06, 01:15 PM
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I haven't owned it that long, so I don't have a long history with this particular Rover specialist. He looked it over when I bought it and didn't catch this problem. So I am a little concerned. But I suppose it could have started recently. I don't know. When it comes to cars, I just rely on what other people tell me.
I love it but have been hearing more and more opinions like yours. Always wanted one though, so I'll probably hang onto this for awhile and do the Rover thing.
Thanks for your advice. I figured he was giving me the straight dope and I'll just have to take my Rover licks.
I'll tell you what though. When I'm sitting up in that thing cruising through the countryside, it sure feels great. I've heard though that the older ones were the real ones. These new ones just don't stand up.
One of the most interesting parts of this experience is getting to know a little about the Rover community. Quite a group of committed folks.
 
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Old 10-30-06, 08:12 PM
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This is just a guess at the situation.

Exhaust bolts have a tendancy to get very rusty which means anytime you have to take them loose there is a chance they will seize or break. The cheapest price he gave you is probably if there are no mishaps and they tighten or replace easily. The most expensive price is probably if several of them break and the tech has to remove the heads and send them to a machine shop to have the broken bolts drilled and tapped. As you can see....there's no way to give you an exact because he doesn't know what will happen.

But if the bolts are truely "coming loose" I don't see any reason why they won't just tighten back down. (Unless he needs to replace the gasket that is)

Hope that helps,

John
 
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Old 10-31-06, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisReynalds
I haven't owned it that long, so I don't have a long history with this particular Rover specialist. He looked it over when I bought it and didn't catch this problem. So I am a little concerned. But I suppose it could have started recently. I don't know. When it comes to cars, I just rely on what other people tell me.
I love it but have been hearing more and more opinions like yours. Always wanted one though, so I'll probably hang onto this for awhile and do the Rover thing.
Thanks for your advice. I figured he was giving me the straight dope and I'll just have to take my Rover licks.
I'll tell you what though. When I'm sitting up in that thing cruising through the countryside, it sure feels great. I've heard though that the older ones were the real ones. These new ones just don't stand up.
One of the most interesting parts of this experience is getting to know a little about the Rover community. Quite a group of committed folks.
Chris ...something like that might not have been obvious from a pre-purchase glance over. Hopefully, the bolts will just need to be torqued back down or maybe the bolts themselves are just worn and he can replace them w/o messing with replacing the manifold.

Yeah, I always wanted a Rover too and so I got one and I did love it. I used mine for commuting a 65 mile roundtrip drive each day so since mine was getting some use, I probably had more problems than say someone driving it less. Does yours have the EAS system on it? I can't remember if the Country Long Wheel Base models had that option. That system was the bulk of my problems ...and mainly electrical glitches that caused the system to fault out, which in turn would disable the system and leave me stranded sometimes. I will also say that both of the mechanics I used told me around 100K miles, the top half of the engine would normally need rebuilding. This involved taking the head off which was labor intensive. I sold mine at 104K miles and mine needed this work done. Since I was using mine for commuting and the maintenance was costing me $500/month as it was getting older, I couldn't justify owning it anymore. But I would love to buy an older Defender or maybe a model like yours and just use it to putz around in, go off-roading, or take it camping with the dog. But I would buy one without the EAS system. Nice idea but was just not engineered to last on those vehicles.

If you do have this system on yours, plan on replacing the air boots, pump, and possibly the EAS block part that contains the valves that adjust the air if they already haven't been. All of mine went bad before 100K.

Steve
 
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