Remote starter in standard trans?

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Old 07-05-07, 11:15 PM
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Remote starter in standard trans?

I would love to have a remote starter for heating/defrosting for working third shift. I don't want to get rid of my 5 speed truck (2002 S-10) either. I always park in neutral, would it be possible to have one installed?
 
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Old 07-06-07, 02:17 AM
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got this from the web

Nope! There isn't a model of remote starter for a manual transmission vehicle.

The reason is, some people leave the transmission in gear with a manual transmission when it's parked. Could you imagine what would happen if someone engaged their remote starter if the transmission was in gear? The vehicle could take off with nobody in it!

Sorry! But you're not going to find any manufacturer of remote starters that make them for manual transmission vehicles. It's a liability thing.

Now my 2 cents on it: I would not have one just for the fact that you will have a unattended machine running.
Now throw in a malfunction like a thrown fanbelt or no oil pressure and no one there to shut it down, You just might go out to a car that has just self destructed.
It can happen example: jumped in my car one day cranked it over and there was a poor cat under the hood, He jumped thru the belts and every single belt had come off.
The poor cat died but it goes to show you it can happen.
Lucky I was there to hear all the noise so nothing on the car was damaged that I could not fix.
 
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I installed one on my stickshift truck back in the early 90 and it's still works now, I always parked my truck in newtral with e-brake engaged, it's not recommemded for manual trans for the reason that Michael Van mentioned above but I have not has any problem with mine and I'm not recommended install one on manual trans either.
 
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As mentioned, you can install one, but no legitimate installation facility will do it for you because the remote start units are not designed for that transmission type.

You don't mention it, but many manual transmission vehicles have a clutch switch that won't let the vehicle start unless the clutch pedal is depressed. If your truck has one, that would have to be bypassed.

If you ever did leave it in gear and try to start it, even with the parking brake engaged, you will be asking for trouble.
 
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you can do it, you just have to disable the clutch safety feature.
 
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[QUOTE=michael van;1199295]Nope! There isn't a model of remote starter for a manual transmission vehicle.
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This is untrue. Here's one http://www.sjgreatdeals.com/scy2000rsm.html


These starters have safety features so that the emer-brake has to be engaged and the tranny in neutral.

Any reputable company installs these new ones. Well, they are actually not new. They have been out since I've worked at Circuit City back in 1996.
 
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Park in Neutral?

I noticed that some do not leave the transmission in gear as recommended by manufacturers and as common sense would dictate (at least for me)? WHY? You are asking your PARKING brake do do alot! Do you leave your automatic transmission cars in neutral also? Sorry but I don't think this is very smart.
 
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If you read my above post, you would see that the remote starters for manual transmissions require the gear be in neutral or else it will not start.

So, remote starters made for manuals are safe.
 
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Parking in Neutral?

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If you read my above post, you would see that the remote starters for manual transmissions require the gear be in neutral or else it will not start.

So, remote starters made for manuals are safe.
My comments were directed to posters 1 and 3 who said they park their vehicles in Neutral!
 
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Gotcha, I wasn't trying to be rude by my comments, so if I came off that way, I apologise.
 
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Originally Posted by SLJ2137694 View Post
My comments were directed to posters 1 and 3 who said they park their vehicles in Neutral!
What's wrong or not smart with parking the standard trans in newtral?.
 
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Originally Posted by SLJ2137694 View Post
I noticed that some do not leave the transmission in gear as recommended by manufacturers and as common sense would dictate (at least for me)? WHY? You are asking your PARKING brake do do alot! Do you leave your automatic transmission cars in neutral also? Sorry but I don't think this is very smart.
Well, the park pawl is designed to hold the car when in neutral. The engine is not and that is what you are asking to hold the vehicle when parking a manual trans in gear an not using the parking brake.. Strangely enough, the parking brake is designed for..... holding the vehicle when parking. As long as the brake is working properly, there is no reason it should not be able to hold the vehicle.
 
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What's wrong or not smart with parking the standard trans in newtral?.
Why not use the engine as additional resistance to rhe car moving? What are you gaining by keeping the car in NEUTRAL? What is it hurting to put it in gear? Some of the people who post here are just amazing in what they think they know!!! As I stated, do you park your automatic transmission vehicles in NEUTRAL also? Parking a manual transmission vehicle in NEUTRAL defies all common sense and drivers education instruction. Also, vehicle manufacturers also say to set the PARKING BRAKE and the put the vehicle in a low gear. But, I suppose some are just smarter than the majority of us!!!
 
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Thank you for your educating on how to parked the manual trans, I feel much smarter now.


I was wondering if you even............. never mind. You are right.
 
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Thank you for your educating on how to parked the manual trans, I feel much smarter now.


I was wondering if you even............. never mind. You are right.
Some people just don't take correction very humbly! Yes, I am correct, so are the manufacturers, the Drivers Education instructors and anyone else with a lick of common sense! You still didn't answer my questions. I guess you just don't have any good answers.
 
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Hey Steve, I never said you couldn;t use the engine torque to add to the safety. As a matter of fact, Ford does suggest this exact procedure.

They also suggest setting the park brake when driving an auto trans as well.

In other words; Ford recommends that one always uses the park brake and putting the vehicle in park (if auto) or in 1st or reverse if a manual trans.

Happy?

So, I don;t ever use my park brake at all. I depend totally on the engine to hold my truck. In Michigan, park brake cables tend to freeze up and are a pain. I don;t care to go there.

Oh, I see the problem. You were a GM tech. Weren;t they the ones with parking brakes that were recalled because of failure? I see the big reason for maintaining the need for engine braking.


Now if you want to be really safe, go buy a set of wheel chocks and use them everytime you park.

The point of this thread was a guy was looking for a remote starter for a manual trans vehicle.

end info; they do make them. the clutch safety switch must be bypassed. Not positive but I would think some sort of neutral safety switch would be required, or at least suggested.

Manufacturers want you to use all avaialble means to park safely. Each individual means mentioned has provided adequate safety in general conditions and if in good working order.

anything I missed?

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Closing post.

I believe the issues have been addressed and answered.
 
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