'98 Winstar -- Still No Spark To Plugs....

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Old 11-28-07, 07:52 AM
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'98 Winstar -- Still No Spark To Plugs....

I've replaced the plugs, wires coil pack and, most recently, the camshaft position sensor and still have no spark to my plugs.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks in advance for any help,
Kevin Gallagher
 
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Did you replace the cam sensor or the crankshaft position sensor? Did you have the ignition module checked?
 
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I did replace the crankshaft position sensor along with the plugs, wires and coil pack.

How do I go about checking the ignition control module?



Thanks in advance for your help,
Kevin Gallagher
 

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Sorry for the double post
 
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Try this site. http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us...rInfoPages.htm

That will take you to a wiring diagram which may help.
 
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Here's an Autozone link for removal. It sits over on the fender well. You would need to take it to an auto parts store for checking. While you're there ask them if they can check the sensors (cam and crank for you) off the vehicle.

http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us...rInfoPages.htm

Looks like the same one Goldstar is sending you.


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marbobj,
Would you happen to have a link to one that shows the 3.8L model. That diagram isn't at all like what's under my hood.

I really appreciate the help.

Kevin Gallagher
 
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Never mind...it says that ignition control module is incorporated into the power control module.

Do you have any idea where the power control module is?

I'm hoping I can pull that and get it checked instead.

Thanks again,
Kevin Gallagher
 
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That link is for the 3.8 model. It all should sit over on the fender. If it doesn't look like what you have go to the www.autozone.com site and work your way through the repair section path to one year before and one year after what you have. You may have a van that hit a break in model configurations on the wiring.
 
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marbobj,
That's where I found out that the ignition control module is incorporated inside the power control module which is the computer unit that goes through the firewall on the rear right side of the engine compartment.

I've already called several of the major parts stores and a pair of Ford dealers all all said that they couldn't test the PCM outside of the vehicle.

They did all say that they could check the ICM, but that year and model put the two together so the test needs to done with it in the vehicle.

If I could get it running to drive it to their shops for a test, I wouldn't need them anymore so it makes no sense to me.

Thanks anyway though,
Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars
 

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I see where you're at now. The fender location is for a previous year of the 3.0.

Sorry you're running into that, but I see your point. The ignition module is another main component in what you are experiencing. Others are coil, crank sensor, cam sensor, computer.

It's impractical to replace parts without having a fault code or something solid to base the replacement on. Those things are just too expensive.
 
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