1972 delta 88 ignition cylinder

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Old 05-19-08, 05:35 PM
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Unhappy 1972 delta 88 ignition cylinder

Hello i am trying to save this car from the junkyard and have what i thought was the simpilist of problems no one has the keys and the previous owner drilled out the entire core of the cilinder you can see right through it ! unfortunately the little popup retainer and housing are still lodged in the column i have tried everything i can think of and im desperate to save this car i cant see it going to the yard for a 12 dollar part but i have 2 days left thanks for any help
 
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Old 05-19-08, 05:59 PM
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You will have to find just the right spot.......But if you twist the outer ring of the "CORE"...you'll find a spot where the "TAB" can be depressed......Pull it out...
 
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Old 05-19-08, 06:17 PM
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thanks for the reply

any suggestions what to use to rotate it? can move it in and out a bit but dosent seem to twist thanks again for the quick reply
 
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Old 05-19-08, 06:24 PM
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Since the tumblers have been drilled out are you able to turn it at all? If so, turn it to what would normally be the run position (after the spring back from start) and then depress the pin in the bottom of the housing. If you are unable to turn the cylinder then you will have to drill it out further and then do the aforementioned.
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thanku 4 your reply

there is zero soft metal left to drill all thats left is the steel shell and 2 brass pins at the top and bottom of the cylinder do i need to drill those out? thanks again 72 delta 88 convertable mint no rust thanks u 2
 
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Old 05-20-08, 06:29 AM
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is this a column mounted ignition cylinder? I can't remember when they changed from dash to column mounted.

at any rate...if it's in the column, the steering wheel, lock plate and turn signal switch will need to be removed to get at the lock screw that holds the outer part of the lock cylinder in the column. if you use excess force, you'll be in need of more parts.
 
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Old 05-20-08, 08:12 AM
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sorry it is column mounted

I have removed everything behind the wheel and there is no visible screw or retainer tab on the new replacement there is a lock tab on the top of it that releases when the key is turned forward I am not even kidding you can see daylight through the housing that is left but the lock tab is stilll left intact and i cant get anything i have thought of to get the remaining cylinder to rotate and disengage the tab. I swear if i get this out I am grinding the tab off the new one
 
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resolved

big thanks to all that replied
 
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What are you trying to do?: Get out the cylinder to put in new ignition switch?

No Dremel-like tool for cutting? - or one of those "snap-ring" pliers like tools will help spread/release it?

Can you describe in detail where the parts you are trying to remove are located exactly and what they look like?

Usually, whre there's a will, there's a way.
 
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Old 05-20-08, 04:31 PM
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hey thx 4 the reply

Its in the column the entire core was drilled out, I finally got it out and a new one installed just to find out the gear behind it is stripped so now i have to remove the new one and from what i know you just put the key in the run position and pull the cylinder but im here to tell you not gonna happen! so now i need to know what the gear behind the ignition cylinder is called and wher4e to get one I dont care if i have to redrill out the new one as its only 12 dollars. The good news is it started and runs like a champ thanks
 
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Is it too late tonight to call up an auto parts store and ask?
 
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Old 05-20-08, 06:24 PM
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i dont live in the smartest community

3 of my neighbors are retired gm and cant even tell me what its called so i know what to ask for lol, i saved the car its now home 185 dollars later i couldent let it go to junk lol so i guess well see thanks any opinion on how to get the new cylinder out without destroying would be helpful thx again
 
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Old 05-20-08, 06:42 PM
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From the sound of it, it sounds like you might end up needing a new column. If it is damaged inside past the lock cylinder its possible that the damage goes into parts that arent replaceable. Plus since this car is 36 years old it is highly likely that you would never be able to buy these parts new and will have to be donated from another vehicle.
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thx 4 reply

do you really think so 4 a simple plastic gear?
 
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Old 05-21-08, 04:38 PM
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i saved the car its now home 185 dollars later i couldent let it go to junk lol
This old guy in next apt., I thought was dying. But on recent day he came out of hybernation, and I asked him what became of his big ol GMC? van (the type hippies converted, looking.) He said he drove it to the scrap yard (not auto salvage). He said they paid him $639.xx! I said, "What?" How much a ton now?" He said $245! "For mixed scrap like that?, I replied". I can remember back in the late 80's I think good steel was paying about $80. I was going to call the scrap yard and try to get a confirmation on this, but forgot. And to think I signed my van away to my mechanic. Remember?; the van hit/destroyed by lightening? No WONDER my mechanic was salivating, eagerly handing me the pen!

So before discounting scraping the vehicle.......

But yes, if I was in your shoes I'd keep wanting to try to run down that part somehow or another, until I exhausted my options. Check with auto salvage hot lines, car clubs, etc.
 
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Old 05-21-08, 05:17 PM
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good news

went right to gm and was able to get the part brand new $13.00 so in closing cost of complete new ignition 27 dollars cost of going to gm to find the part 4 dollars cost of seeing the part guys face and make him actually work for 20 min to find the part Priceless lol By the way I would personally like to thank everyone who offered an opinion and help on this subject I'm sure this project will require future help and I appreciate all you have offered!

P.S. ecman51 Believe me there is a will and always a way drop me an email [email protected] and I'll send a pic if you wand or anyone else for opinions
 

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Old 05-21-08, 05:52 PM
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I am really impressed that the part was still available. I say Kudos for you for even attempting it. I am glad to hear you got the parts you need without too much trouble and I would definately love to see pictures of your vehicle.
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Originally Posted by deadicatddriver View Post
I'm sure this project will require future help and I appreciate all you have offered!

P.S. ecman51 Believe me there is a will and always a way drop me an email [email protected] and I'll send a pic if you wand or anyone else for opinions
If you need help with figuring out how to install that gear, you can count me out. Any close up pic though, on this installation, would be nice. We all like to see pics here.
 
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