'94 Escort wagon won't start

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Old 12-20-08, 08:28 PM
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'94 Escort wagon won't start

Help!!!!!

Used to working on V-8's and I'm lost.

Motor won't turn over when I turn key.

Jumped starter from battery and car runs. Replaced starter relay on firewall, checked all fuses on inside and outside boxes.

Noticed that when I tried to start car with lights on, they don't dim.

Thought about the neutral switch, but have no idea where it is. Haynes and Chilton does not say where it is, And I can't find to check with meter.

Any help is appreciated!!
 
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Old 12-20-08, 08:45 PM
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neutral switch is on the trans at the shifter connection to trans unless you have manual trans then it is a switch on the clutch pedal similar to the brake light switch.
have you tried it with the vehicle in neutral? I assume it is a auto trans, the last thing to check is do you have voltage from your ignition switch to the starter solenoid when you attempt to start. before attempting to start with the vehicle in neutral be sure to set the parking brake to avoid a runaway.

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Old 12-20-08, 08:55 PM
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Car is an automatic and tried starting in all positions.

I find it strange that the lights don't dim when trying to start..

Is the switch under the hood, or inside the car under the shifter?

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Old 12-21-08, 12:01 AM
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Like the other guy said check voltage from key switch to starter solenoid.

I believe you have a big red hot wire coming from the battery to the starter solenoid. A small wire coming from the key switch to the solenoid that will activate the solenoid when you turn the key.

Voltage on the Red battery cable leading to starter solenoid.
Voltage on the small wire attached to the solenoid. Not sure what the color the wire would be thou.
 
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Old 12-21-08, 05:22 AM
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Doesn't that year of Escort have the safety kill switch in the rear of the car behind one of the panels ?
 
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http://home.comcast.net/~onovakind67/starterrelay.GIF

I would first confirm that there is voltage at the "s" terminal in the diagram in the link above. Have some one turn the key to the start position while you have a voltmeter of test light on the wire that goes to the "s" terminal of the solonoid.

You say the car starts if you take the jumper wire past the solonoid to the high amperage cable to the starter.
And you put a new solonoid in right?
 
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Old 12-21-08, 07:50 AM
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Suprizingly, Autozone has complete wiring diagrams for this model.

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Thanks for all the info!

Just got home from work and heading outside! My friend jumped the starter, but not sure how. So I'm starting over.

The Zone info was great and downloading now.

Will let ya know what happens!

Joey
 
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Simple way to isolate some things is turn ignition to on, and jumper either from the battery to the ignition terminal of the solenoid, or from the hot side of solenoid to ignition terminal. If it starts, its somewhere before the ignition terminal of solenoid. Could be switch itself or one of the interlocks.
 
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Old 12-22-08, 07:01 PM
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Thanks for all the help! It's finally fixed!!

Spent $210 dollars and I think I got screwed by Advance Auto Parts.

Buddy came over Sunday after we got off from work and instead of following the T/S from the link, he convinced me that the starter was bad. Pulled the starter, took it to Advance and put it on the bench. It was 15 mins 'til closing, pushed some buttons and said it was bad. Knowing it started when jumped, asked for a solenoid and he said "not a stock item"! Called a few other places and the same answer. So, I bought the starter ($160 rebuilt) put it in and wouldn't turn over! Jumped from battery to verify starter was good.

Started again today with meter from starter to ignition and found the ignition switch assy on the back of the cylinder defective.

Went back to Advance after fixing the car and asked to see the starter and he said it was already picked up.

I assume I got shafted by the guy or didn't know how to run the bench. Gonna send an Email to HQ and see what kind of response I get.

Thanks to all for the help! This site has helped me so many times from auto to house repairs.

Take a bow, Guys!!!!!

Joey in Miami
 
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Old 12-22-08, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikulski35 View Post
Thanks for all the help! It's finally fixed!!

Spent $210 dollars and I think I got screwed by Advance Auto Parts.

Buddy came over Sunday after we got off from work and instead of following the T/S from the link, he convinced me that the starter was bad. Pulled the starter, took it to Advance and put it on the bench. It was 15 mins 'til closing, pushed some buttons and said it was bad. Knowing it started when jumped, asked for a solenoid and he said "not a stock item"! Called a few other places and the same answer. So, I bought the starter ($160 rebuilt) put it in and wouldn't turn over! Jumped from battery to verify starter was good.

Started again today with meter from starter to ignition and found the ignition switch assy on the back of the cylinder defective.

Went back to Advance after fixing the car and asked to see the starter and he said it was already picked up.

I assume I got shafted by the guy or didn't know how to run the bench. Gonna send an Email to HQ and see what kind of response I get.

Thanks to all for the help! This site has helped me so many times from auto to house repairs.

Take a bow, Guys!!!!!

Joey in Miami
He should have know that the starter was good and the solenoid was bad after he tested it and said "well have to order you a new solenoid" "because your starter is good"

I would tell the Manager and explain that it was an honest mistake on the workers behalf and that they either refund you fully for the rebuilt starter or they give you half the price in credit or something along those lines.
 
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Old 12-22-08, 08:57 PM
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They would give me a partial payment without swapping part back to original? That's news to me!

Anything is worth a try!

I did ask him what component was defective and if he could isolate it with the bench. He said no.

His english wasn't too good. I'm in Miami, Fl!

Thanks again for all the help!

Joey
 
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Old 12-22-08, 10:08 PM
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Thats news to me too lol!

I would call the manager and try to get them return the original one so you could get a refund!

Advance ought to have a back up plan on something like that happening. I took a alternator off an old pick up and took it too autozone to get another one and when I got home I realized I needed something off the old one and they also had allready picked the item up.

The part stores need to have a grace period or something to keep that from happening to other people. Like put a tag stating do not pick up until 24 hours. Good luck.
 
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