electric windows didn't work ???

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electric windows didn't work ???

My wife and me went to town today in our 2010 jeep wrangler. After we left the store and got on the highway my wife went to roll down her window and the switch wouldn't work [for either side] I found a spot to pull over, tried the switches multiple times, give the fuses a quick check over with no luck. She said crank it up and try again - and now it works fine

Any idea what could have caused this? might it happen again or was it just a fluke?

The biggest thing that concerns me is, on my wife's 02 merc, the passenger front window would work and then not work - the dealer would claim nothing wrong and then about 200 miles out of warranty it cost me several hundred bucks for a new motor and switch
 
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I don't know a thing about your specific vehicle, but just guessing...

These days it is common for cars to have computers controlling everything. Computers can get "hung up", then rebooting them makes them work again.

It is possible if you removed the fuse that you rebooted the computers for the windows?

If it happens again, try removing the same fuses again.

If it is under warranty, take it in for repair.
 
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Hey Mark,

I did a couple of searches on the Internet to see if other 2010 Jeep Wrangler owners were experiencing similar problems as you described. I found no close matches.

In doing those searches, I included a search of factory recalls for your model year.

http://blogs.4wdandsportutility.com/...ue/index.html: It states in part: “Chrysler announced that it is recalling 288,968 Jeep Wranglers ranging from the 2006 through 2010 model years because of a potential brake fluid leak. Chrysler also said that 76,430 Wranglers are being recalled in Canada, Mexico and other international markets. According to NHTSA the Wranglers affected by the recall were made from May 15, 2006 through Aug. 9, 2010. A smaller number of Jeep Compass models were recalled last week. The Wrangler recall is due to the fact that the front inner fender liners on the Jeeps can rub against the brake fluid tubes and cause a leak. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said the leak could lead to a partial brake loss.”

I don’t know if your particular vehicle is subject to recall (i.e., different VIN's?), and if so, whether you’ve already been to a dealer to correct a potential problem.

While I agree w/ the diagnose and advice given by Bill190, should you need to take your vehicle back to dealer for servicing while still under warranty, I would ask that they inspect the window and related component parts. I’ve experienced a few instances over the yrs. where I had an inspection done on an intermittent problem. In some cases, they could not identify a problem at the time the vehicle was inspected. By saving the paperwork that documented a possible problem while under warranty, the dealer has replaced that part at no charge when it failed after the warranty expired . . . no absolute certainty they will cover the repair as I think a number of factors enter into the equation such as length of time passed after warranty has expired, whether owner is a repeat buyer of vehicles from that dealership, etc. Since it’s a judgment call, best to speak w/ service manager directly.
 
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I hadn't heard of the brake line recall but I did take it to the dealer a few weeks ago for the transmission temperature buzzer recall...... so I'd assume it doesn't pertain to my jeep. I will check out how the brake lines are plumbed - just to be safe.

Because the pass window worked on the 03 merc everytime I brought it in [for other warranty work] they never wrote it down on the ticket - so they claimed I had no proof it was defective before the warranty ran out but this is a different dealership with the jeep.
 
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(Quote) She said crank it up and try again - and now it works fine

This is a sign of a failing "BCM" (Body Control Module), but don't just change it out like that. First have it scanned and post any stored error codes.
 
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Master,

Usually yes, BCM would be the first suspect.

Now , starting in 07, Mopar went to a new "BUSS-COM" - Power distribution format. Instead of a BCM, (Which May still be present in the vehicle, but with limited responsibilities) , They introduced a Solid state Power distribution center called a TIPM, (Totally integrated Power Module) As well as the instrument cluster handling Interior functions CCN (Cabin Compartment NODE).
The switches themselves are in no way connected to the motors, but rather "Switch State" is communicated along an internal network, which then Informs CCN of the change, And CCN talks back along the network to command TIPM to Turn on the proper DRIVERS.
A Failure anywhere on the "BUSS" can default CCN, and in turn Disable all functions on that Set of TIPM drivers.
Since this is only one window inop, I would lean more towards an Inoperative switch, which unfortunately, will NOT set a DTC, simply because CCN never saw a change in switch state, And Therefore, has no reason to think anything is wrong. Another problem area, is the loom between the door Jamb and the body. any Momentary irregularity in this area, can also Default the Buss, But this situation will usually set a DTC in ALL MODULES ON THE NETWORK.

"SO Diezel", "You mean to tell me my ABS MODULE is going south and it affects my windows"????????------- YEP completely possible. This diagnosis is not a Job for Lightweights, so make an appointment with your dealership.

Mark , The recall for the brake tubing is Recall# K15, and it is based solely on production date for 2010 Wrangler.

2010 (JK) Jeep® Wrangler
NOTE: This recall applies only to the above vehicles built from April 22, 2010
through May 19, 2010 (MDH 042200 through 051923).
2010 (

If you know your "BUILD DATE" if it falls between those two, you really should have it done --"PROMPTLY"
If you dont know for sure, I would call your purchasing dealer and inquire---"Promptly"...
Ive seen a few of them in the last week or two, and they arent to be taken lightly.
 
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Check your PM...............................
 
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I guess I wasn't clear about the window switches neither window would work untill after the engine was shut off and restarted. I don't know if it's related but I've also found out that all my FM station presets are gone..... but the AM and SAT stations are still set

I haven't checked for the date my jeep was built but since we bought it in january, it isn't part of the brake recall
 
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