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grand am died & no start

Friend's '02 grand am v6 died last night while driving. He said the traction light came on, then car died. Now it cranks but won't turn over. Any ideas?
 
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Is the "Check Engine Light" on ?? Is there a code ?? Is the engine getting spark and gas ??
 
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if it cranks, then it turns. not sure what you saying.

is starter cranking AND engine turning? but not starting?

is starter only making chugga-chugga and engine does not turn?

sorry for ignorance, what is traction light? traction control light? i don't really see how traction control can disable starting, but i'll be surprised with nothing, seen worse.

this is very handy site:

Diagnose and Repair why Car doesn't Start or Stalls - Troubleshooting Flowchart from Starter through Spark Failure and Fuel Pump
 
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Sorry for the confusing post. The engine cranks fine but will not start.
 
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The grand am has a fuel cut off. Check the manual for there are two types. Look under fuel in your manual. It should be called "passlock" Its a GM thing.

Is there a security light blinking on the dash with the key on?

If so leave the key on for 10 minutes until the light stops flashing. They turn off the key and start the car.

I will give you more info and the cause and fix if thats the issue.

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Old 05-07-11, 07:05 PM
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well, that's in case you do have security light flashing...


thank God for the internet where I found a passing comment by someone that made it work. If this is your problem:

1. Attempt to start the car, let it stall, but DO NOT turn the key off! Leave it in RUN.
2. Wait 10 minutes or until the Theft Sys light glows steady instead of blinking.
3. Do not turn the key off, but start it immediately.
4. This should reset your Passlock system.
 
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Old 05-07-11, 07:08 PM
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some good Samaritan on the web also suggested to have someone start the car, while you hit the bottom of the fuel tank a few times. if car starts, your pump is bad. fuel pump.
 
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Old 05-07-11, 07:57 PM
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OK I will give it up.

I have a 03 olds alero. Same issue. Wife kept calling me the car wont start. I got tired of it. Its the hall effect sensor in the ignition that activates/deactivates the pass lock. GM wanted $600 for new ignition installed. I said no way.

I found this site. I soldered the 2.2K resistor as described in the instructions. It works with the one of two passlock systems.... the other way is to cut the yellow wire but the security light will always be on, but passlock disables. ( There is a switch way to but I did not think that was user friendly)

well you guys read it... No need for me to explain.

Grand Am Passlock Security System Repair

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Old 05-08-11, 07:27 AM
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mike, there are multiple posts on internet how to bypass the infamous passlock system, even class lawsuits against GM as people got seriously fed up with disabled vehicles because of it.
reason i am saying this, we do not know if "his friend's" car has passlock issue. or something else. no response or clarification. so, until it's is known passlock issue, it may not be wise to suggest messing with electronics in that car. imagine a rookie taking it all seriously, going in, screwing entire ignition system, just to find out later that it was a fuel pump or a fuse issue, and then paying triple to fix all this mess.
i hope you understand. your help is always appreciated, but this might be "langsam aber sicher" case.
 
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info and the cause and fix if thats the issue.
Yes I did say if thats the issue. Of course we are waiting for the OP to post back with more details. And absolutely do not attempt any repair until the issue is isolated.

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Turned out to be a bad fuel pump. Thanks everyone!
 
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