Honda Odyssey 2007 alarm behavior
#1
03-23-15, 03:20 PM
Honda Odyssey 2007 alarm behavior
I wanted to find out correct behavior of my Honda Odyssey 2007 alarm.
It looks like I was cheated by car salesman when I bought the car in 2007 brand new. It was a base model. I didn't bulge for any options. they sent 5 different people to me and I said no to everyone of them. then last one came to tell me that I needed to pay $500.00 for car alarm. otherwise, they would take the alarm out. I thought the car didn't have alarm. so I agreed to pay $500.00 for the alarm which turned out to be after market alarm panel after yesterday's incident.
Fast forward: yesterday, my car keys (both of them with remote control) couldn't open the car and deactivate the alarm. If I manually use the key to open the door, alarm would sound and I couldn't start the engine. I started messing around by disconnecting some wires from the panel. but still not working.
I had mechanic remove the after market alarm panel and replaced remote battery.
Now I can use the key to remote lock and unlock the car. based on mechanic, he said my manufacture's alarm is still there (dealer just milked money out of me with add-on after market alarm).
the problem is this:
when I press the 'lock' button once, it locks the car without any beep. but if I press it twice, then it beeps. this behaves differently then before (where first press will beep).
additionally, it never beeps anymore when I press unlock button (it doesn't matter how many times I press ) though it locks the car. when I press 'panic', alarm will sound.
I don't know if this is correct behavior or my mechanic didn't set it up correctly after removing the after market alarm (he did cut some wires)?
Thanks for any pointers
It looks like I was cheated by car salesman when I bought the car in 2007 brand new. It was a base model. I didn't bulge for any options. they sent 5 different people to me and I said no to everyone of them. then last one came to tell me that I needed to pay $500.00 for car alarm. otherwise, they would take the alarm out. I thought the car didn't have alarm. so I agreed to pay $500.00 for the alarm which turned out to be after market alarm panel after yesterday's incident.
Fast forward: yesterday, my car keys (both of them with remote control) couldn't open the car and deactivate the alarm. If I manually use the key to open the door, alarm would sound and I couldn't start the engine. I started messing around by disconnecting some wires from the panel. but still not working.
I had mechanic remove the after market alarm panel and replaced remote battery.
Now I can use the key to remote lock and unlock the car. based on mechanic, he said my manufacture's alarm is still there (dealer just milked money out of me with add-on after market alarm).
the problem is this:
when I press the 'lock' button once, it locks the car without any beep. but if I press it twice, then it beeps. this behaves differently then before (where first press will beep).
additionally, it never beeps anymore when I press unlock button (it doesn't matter how many times I press ) though it locks the car. when I press 'panic', alarm will sound.
I don't know if this is correct behavior or my mechanic didn't set it up correctly after removing the after market alarm (he did cut some wires)?
Thanks for any pointers
#2
03-24-15, 04:52 AM
Group Moderator
So, if I'm understanding correctly, things are working satisfactorily, but you are getting slightly different responses to the actions you are doing? Other than having a few choice words with the general manager at the dealership, I think I would just adjust to the new way things operate. Removing an aftermarket system is not really very hard and as far as I know does not involve any actions regarding a factory installed oem system.
Just had a customer recently who wanted a tow to the Toyota dealer for an alarm system problem. When I got there I noticed right away it was an aftermarket system (which would not require a trip to a dealer) so I called my favorite garage for advice and he said it was a less than $100 job to disable the aftermarket system, probably half what the dealer would have charged. The customer had been told by an alleged mechanic that it had to go to the dealer. Not.
Hopefully a fellow Odyssey owner will drop in here and give us some insight.
Just had a customer recently who wanted a tow to the Toyota dealer for an alarm system problem. When I got there I noticed right away it was an aftermarket system (which would not require a trip to a dealer) so I called my favorite garage for advice and he said it was a less than $100 job to disable the aftermarket system, probably half what the dealer would have charged. The customer had been told by an alleged mechanic that it had to go to the dealer. Not.
Hopefully a fellow Odyssey owner will drop in here and give us some insight.
#3
03-24-15, 06:33 AM
Thank you the_tow_guy. My mechanic was very reasonable. He charged me $82.00 for removing the alarm + installing battery of my key + giving me another battery for my spare key.
I agree that removing it is a good thing. I can't image that I get stranded away from home because alarm disables my engine yet I have a key on hand.
The question is:
if you have a remote key, should it beep when you press lock once? should it beep (twice) when you press unlock once?
before removing after market alarm:
press lock once: beep (once)
press unlock once: beep (twice)
after removing after market alarm:
press lock once: no beep
press lock twice: beep (once)
press unlock: no peed (no matter how many times you press unlock)
I have a Toyota camary. remote control behaves the same way as my Honda before removing the after market alarm.
I asked my mechanic why it behaved differently and he didn't know correct behavior.
another question is: shouldn't all car comes with alarm system? why would dealer install extra after market alarm? Is there any other reason than purely milking out of buyer?
I agree that removing it is a good thing. I can't image that I get stranded away from home because alarm disables my engine yet I have a key on hand.
The question is:
if you have a remote key, should it beep when you press lock once? should it beep (twice) when you press unlock once?
before removing after market alarm:
press lock once: beep (once)
press unlock once: beep (twice)
after removing after market alarm:
press lock once: no beep
press lock twice: beep (once)
press unlock: no peed (no matter how many times you press unlock)
I have a Toyota camary. remote control behaves the same way as my Honda before removing the after market alarm.
I asked my mechanic why it behaved differently and he didn't know correct behavior.
another question is: shouldn't all car comes with alarm system? why would dealer install extra after market alarm? Is there any other reason than purely milking out of buyer?
#4
03-24-15, 03:32 PM
Group Moderator
I can't speak specifically to Hondas as we are Camry folks as well. Funny that removing the aftermarket alarm would have changed the "beep" programming. 
Stopped by the garage where I took the lady I was dealing with; he charged her $80 and he's not one to gouge prices, so your charge was right on the money.
Does seem like with the sophistication of electronics in modern cars, adding a factory alarm as a standard feature would involve minimal cost.
Stopped by the garage where I took the lady I was dealing with; he charged her $80 and he's not one to gouge prices, so your charge was right on the money.
Does seem like with the sophistication of electronics in modern cars, adding a factory alarm as a standard feature would involve minimal cost.
